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Old 8th June 2025, 09:44 AM   #1
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It's a repair or a restoration, from the workmanship very well done!
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Old 8th June 2025, 09:55 AM   #2
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Otherwise it's a rather nice Tilam Upih keris.
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Old 8th June 2025, 01:25 PM   #3
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Thank you for showing these images Detlef.

I'm probably not going to win any friends with these following comments, so I'll apologise in advance.

I do agree that the joining of the wood and the finish on the wrongko has been neatly done, however I am unable to agree that it has been well done.

This form of wrongko is intended to be worn as an item of formal dress, and as such it must conform to a very particular pattern. The repair to this scabbard has not followed the pattern at all, & this scabbard could not be worn as an item of dress.

If this repair had been done in Solo the correct pattern would have been followed, so it is very obvious that this repair has been done outside the culture, and in my opinion this wrongko should be replaced.

Others might have a different opinion, & I feel no compulsion to try to convince anybody that my opinion is correct.

Again, my apologies.

But the blade, hilt selut, mendak are all pretty nice, they do deserve better than they presently have.
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Thank you for showing these images Detlef.

I'm probably not going to win any friends with these following comments, so I'll apologise in advance.

I do agree that the joining of the wood and the finish on the wrongko has been neatly done, however I am unable to agree that it has been well done.

This form of wrongko is intended to be worn as an item of formal dress, and as such it must conform to a very particular pattern. The repair to this scabbard has not followed the pattern at all, & this scabbard could not be worn as an item of dress.

If this repair had been done in Solo the correct pattern would have been followed, so it is very obvious that this repair has been done outside the culture, and in my opinion this wrongko should be replaced.

Others might have a different opinion, & I feel no compulsion to try to convince anybody that my opinion is correct.

Again, my apologies.

But the blade, hilt selut, mendak are all pretty nice, they do deserve better than they presently have.
Nothing to apologize Alan! I agree with you, that the repair don't follow the correct pattern, so I've written that the repair is well done from the "workmanship". Not in the sense of a correct pattern!

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Old 8th June 2025, 09:15 PM   #5
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Understood Detlef, & that is fair enough.
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