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20th March 2023, 12:17 PM
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King János I of Hungary 1540. https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...azis/adatlap/5
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20th March 2023, 12:21 PM
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King of Hungary, Ulászló, Buda 1515. https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...s/adatlap/7197
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20th March 2023, 12:29 PM
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Ferdinand I. King of Hungary. Date estimated 1531-1558.
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20th March 2023, 12:36 PM
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Lipot I of Transylvania 1698. L-guard sabre https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...is/adatlap/711
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20th March 2023, 12:45 PM
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Ferdinand II king of Hungary. 1622
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20th March 2023, 12:59 PM
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Sigismund Bathory 1599 https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...is/adatlap/105
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20th March 2023, 01:20 PM
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Ferdinand I king of Hungary 1555. Copy of original! https://adatbazisokonline.mnl.gov.hu...s/adatlap/1296
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23rd March 2023, 05:47 PM
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Hard to make out the details, but perhaps this shows the classic "Hungarian" S-shaped guard which we know from mostly older swords and sabers, as seen here and here. Another example of the 1470s is in Austria, but the artist Hans Siebenbürger was evidently a Transylvanian Saxon, the land of "Seven Castles" (German: Siebenbürgen). |
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23rd March 2023, 06:10 PM
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http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...4&postcount=26 http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...7&postcount=64 And the cross-guard looks like this one. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showpo...4&postcount=24 |
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26th March 2023, 12:08 AM
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Now that we have seen lots of s-guards and banana-hilts, it would be a great time to dig up those depictions of Tatar sabers or other under-represented forms (Ordynka, Czeczuga, Ormianka etc.).
Hopefully I can also come up with some paintings including the Polish knuckle-bow saber in the future (Mr. Z´s Class I which I have mentioned very briefly in the Karabela Guide). |
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26th March 2023, 07:56 AM
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THE ADORATION OF THE MAGI. About 1514. St. Paul and Peter's Catholic Church, Dryswiaty, Braslau district, Vitebsk region. The main painting might be from 1514, but in my opinion the inserted image of the hussar is a later addition, due to the stylistic difference between the two images. So unfortunately I don't think it can provide much info.
Hmmm... maybe the coat of arms next can be of some use in dating the hussar depiction. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...90;ы.jpg He doesn't very different to the figures in the "Tablica gołuchowska" from circa 1620. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki...2;uchowska.jpg. Note: the example on the Wikipedia page seems to be a reproduction. I believe this one to be the original. Last edited by Teisani; 26th March 2023 at 09:23 AM. |
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26th March 2023, 09:45 AM
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This site looks like a nice source for some depictions. https://17c.org.ua/dzherela
The embassy of Bohdan Khmelnytskyi to Janusz Radziwill in 1651. Abraham van Westerfeld. They look like tatar sabres |
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