An interesting chalice for coments

Matchlock · 30th March 2010, 04:35 AM

Hola Nando,

After almost all has been said, especially by our learned member A. Senefelder, all that's left to me is to state that in my opinion this chalice clearly reflects the late Italian/early German Renaissance taste of ca. 1530-40. Nevertheless, I am afraid that it actually is a Historismus production of the second half of the 19th century.
Now what does make me think so? It's both the characterization of the faces and the warriors' attitude.

Just my opinion though but as you know the late Gothic and early Renaissance styles are my favorites. It still might originate from the 1530's-40's which would make it a real sensation and price it somewhere in between 10,000 to 15,000 euro. Guess we should be able to see the actual item to make sure.

Highly interesting and important find anyway!

Best,
Michael

fernando · 1st April 2010, 01:58 PM

Thanks a lot for your observations, Michael.
It sure is an 'Historimus' production; i took the pictures myself.
As i said, is signed by Christofle, a manufacturer of fine silver flatware and home accessories based in France since 1830.
And the price was accordingly to that.
And as you say, it must be no older than close from 1900.
Fernando

30th March 2010, 04:35 AM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hola Nando, After almost all has been said, especially by our learned member A. Senefelder, all that's left to me is to state that in my opinion this chalice clearly reflects the late Italian/early German Renaissance taste of ca. 1530-40. Nevertheless, I am afraid that it actually is a Historismus production of the second half of the 19th century. Now what does make me think so? It's both the characterization of the faces and the warriors' attitude. Just my opinion though but as you know the late Gothic and early Renaissance styles are my favorites. It still might originate from the 1530's-40's which would make it a real sensation and price it somewhere in between 10,000 to 15,000 euro. Guess we should be able to see the actual item to make sure. Highly interesting and important find anyway! Best, Michael

1st April 2010, 01:58 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thanks a lot for your observations, Michael. It sure is an 'Historimus' production; i took the pictures myself. As i said, is signed by Christofle, a manufacturer of fine silver flatware and home accessories based in France since 1830. And the price was accordingly to that. And as you say, it must be no older than close from 1900. Fernando