Odd takouba for comment

[Tim Simmons]

The solid brass handle makes me wonder if this is a piece made in the Cameroon and the border land with Nigeria. A member "Martin Lubojacky" is much knowledgeable on this subject.

[Iain]

Hi Tim,

I also wondered if that might be the case. The takouba seems to have disseminated as a style pretty widely, being not just a Tuareg weapon. I wondered originally if it was a Fulani/Fulbe piece, but from what I've seen of at least modern pictures they seem to adhere pretty closely to the style and manufacture of Tuareg takouba.

Best,

Iain

[Jim McDougall]

Hi Iain,
Welcome to the forum, and Im always really happy to see those of you who are always with us in the 'lurking' ranks join us, and to have the advantage of your contributions. This is a good example, a case where an interesting weapon exceeds the well known perameters.

While certainly no expert, I have dabbled a bit in the takouba subject, and from what I understand there are often superstitious elements involved with the use of metals among these people. Iron or steel is considered associated with death and dark forces, while brass and gold colored metal is a life force and positive. Obviously the use of copper, brass and these metals has been part of metalworking tradition in the western regions from time immemorial and thier skills might well have been employed to create an interpretative example of these key traditional swords.

The takouba form was well diffused through other tribal groups beyond the Tuareg tribes through the trans Saharan trade routes and nomadic interactions. The blades are often of considerable vintage and remounted many times into even present times. The use of cast brass is well known among the Mossi and other tribes in Mali and Burkino Faso and as noted, the Fulani, who extend into Guinea and other West African regions.

Often it would seem that these solid cast examples of traditional forms would serve as ceremonial or perhaps regalia type swords in localized tribal courts.
This would seem more likely for such a cast example than assuming it to be a tourist trade item, which seem characterized more in true to form mounts of the standard leather and brass embellished takouba types.

These are simply my observations based on the photo and description. Some closeups of elements would be helpful as well. I agree with Tim that Martin is one of a number here that are well established in the study of these swords, but I would not overlook the impressive field work done by Dr. Lee Jones, who wrote the article in our forum archives on these swords.

All very best regards,
Jim

[Tim Simmons]

From the photos the blade looks a good deal more heavy and less flexible? than most.

[Martin Lubojacky]

Welcome Iain
Hello Tim and Jim,
Thanks for confidence, but, frankly speaking, I did not reed as much subject publications as other forum members....I can just confirm it is not touristic piece (and not so odd). I don´t think it is comming from Mandara mountains, those handles differs a little bit. It could be either from Mali, Faso or Northern Nigeria (still some tradition in casting)... in any case my (but really - could be wrong) opinion is it is Hausa sword. I saw very similar handle in Nigeria, but made of aluminium (or maybe tin ? - in any case it was "relatively old" and faired by using). I feel ashamed, but I cannot say more.
Best regards,
Martin

[Tim Simmons]

I think martin may be right in that it is most probably Hausa even Fulani. The work on the sword handle is so very similar to this knife {sorry for the poor light pictures, will do more tomorrow if needed}. The thing is that the off set fuller can also be seen in the Cameroon.

[Iain]

I want to say that I'm grateful to all of you for the very helpful replies. I had a few more photos taken which you can view here (I won't post them all in the thread to save space):

http://picasaweb.google.com/iain.nor...at=directlink#

Including a few with a typical Tuareg takouba for comparison.




Jim,

Thank you for the warm welcome, I think I can safely say that after reading your posts for a few years, you have more than just "dabbled" with takouba. I think you have a very good point about the possibility of it being a ceremonial piece, but more on that below...

Martin,

Zdravím z Prahy. Je skvělé vědět, že jsou v zemi i další sběratelé! Thank you for the insights and the possible tribal attribution of Hausa. I think you may be correct. I found several pieces that appear to correspond in terms of the cast hilt work:



And the overall form:

http://www.shikra.de/Africa.Voodoo-C...1.html?imgID=0

Tim,

Yes, the blade is heavier than most and less flexible. I think the new pictures show that off a bit better. There might be some merit to Jim's suggestion that this could be ceremonial piece. However I am surprised in that case that it shows signs of having been sharpened at some point as I thought I had read, although I could well be wrong, that typically such pieces were left blunt. Could anyone direct me towards references or preferably pictures of other such ceremonial pieces?

The decorative form on the knife you posted looks to be a great match stylistically. I assume the knife is Hausa?

I think we can definitely agree now that it looks to be Hausa. I want to thank all of you again, my reference library is extremely thin so this forum is invaluable for researching new pieces.

As a side note, I wanted to ask if any of you own or have read "The African Knights: The Armies of Sokoto, Bornu and Bagirmi in the Nineteenth Century" by Cairns? Is it worth purchasing? The description indicates it has a decent assortment of photos and drawings.

Best regards,

Iain

[Jim McDougall]

Hi Iain,
Thank you for the kind words, and it is true I have been intrigued by the weapons of the Sahara and West Africa for some time. I think that you might find the paper "A Nigerian Panoply: Arms and Armour of the Northern Region" by A.D.H. Bivar (abstract can be found online) very helpful. With the cast hilt dagger you have shown there does seem to be compelling suggestion toward the Hausa attribution.

While often weapons may have been intended for ceremonial or perhaps court use, it does not mean that they remained so. If the weapon was removed from that context it may well have been sharpened for everyday wear. Takoubas and other edged weapons are very much regularly worn accoutrements into present times in varying degree in these regions.

I think if you do not already have the book, Christopher Spring's "African Arms and Armour" presents outstanding overview on these topics. The title you have noted I had not heard of, but sounds very promising. It seems most historic references to Africa lean toward either anthropological views or earlier periods. Thus, information on 19th century is always great as it gives good perspective on the period of most of the collected weapons.

"Tribes of the Sahara" by Dr. Lloyd Cabot Briggs (author of the benchmark article on the blades of the takoubas) is a great reference as well.

Thank you again for joining us, and for bringing this interesting example into discussion...as always, learning together!!!

All the best,
Jim