Moro Twist Core Reborn

Gavin Nugent · 10th March 2010, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mross

Looks that way. That seems to support Rick's thoughts about a replacement hilt. The grenning side was lost during the re-hilt. I can buy that. If anyone is wondering the original wrap is not lost, it was saved.

Great to hear. I never did look at it too close but is appeared to be very unusual, what material do you think it is? I kinda got an old knitted wool kinda feel but the 2 brain cells are struggling to recall.

Gav

mross · 11th March 2010, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by freebooter

Great to hear. I never did look at it too close but is appeared to be very unusual, what material do you think it is? I kinda got an old knitted wool kinda feel but the 2 brain cells are struggling to recall.

Gav

No idea, as I know nothing of Philippine textiles. I'm taking a guess and saying; pinya cloth, a sheer fabric made of fibers of the leaf of the pineapple plant, I found it on a Philippine Textile web site.

Bill · 11th March 2010, 11:27 PM

Interesting pic from a members website, from a sword that doesn't appear to have been worked on for sometime.

Rick · 11th March 2010, 11:49 PM

I respectfully suggest that the one shown in the link is much more recent .

Sorry for the edit Bill, but tis agin the rules to post items for sale in the discussion forums .

Bill · 12th March 2010, 05:14 AM

Sorry didn't mean to break the rules. Didn't mean the original posting but the later example. I don't have a good knowledge of metals but trying to attach/adhere two different metals is tough.
A flimsy piece of metal won't stick to the steel blade.
My first thought was later functionality.
Appears there's something more.
Perhaps it is just decoration, but I 'm somewhat leery of that.
Talismanic?

This is a great posting, in the sense of, restoration vs. preserving.
I don't think the hilt represents the original sword & on the other hand, changing the wear, removes history/use.

It is easy to see that many of these swords are being "updated". I'm guilty of repairing/replacing. Difference between nickel & silver is only $10/less in most cases of repairs. The original sword, in this posting deserves better dress & on the other hand, it should be preserved. Don't know right answer.

hideyoshi · 12th March 2010, 06:21 AM

[QUOTE=Bill]Sorry didn't mean to break the rules. Didn't mean the original posting but the later example. I don't have a good knowledge of metals but trying to attach/adhere two different metals is tough.
A flimsy piece of metal won't stick to the steel blade.
My first thought was later functionality.
Appears there's something more.
Perhaps it is just decoration, but I 'm somewhat leery of that.
Talismanic?

Good point Bill, due to the traces of scrolled ingravings on some of this plates.

ThePepperSkull · 9th July 2010, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill

Sorry didn't mean to break the rules. Didn't mean the original posting but the later example. I don't have a good knowledge of metals but trying to attach/adhere two different metals is tough.
A flimsy piece of metal won't stick to the steel blade.
My first thought was later functionality.
Appears there's something more.
Perhaps it is just decoration, but I 'm somewhat leery of that.
Talismanic?

This is a great posting, in the sense of, restoration vs. preserving.
I don't think the hilt represents the original sword & on the other hand, changing the wear, removes history/use.

It is easy to see that many of these swords are being "updated". I'm guilty of repairing/replacing. Difference between nickel & silver is only $10/less in most cases of repairs. The original sword, in this posting deserves better dress & on the other hand, it should be preserved. Don't know right answer.

If for purely aesthetic reasons, I disagree. The dress that charles and phillip have chosen for the blade are beautiful and simple, which let the beauty of the blade take the spotlight so to speak while at the same time not detracting from the piece as a whole. I myself quite enjoy the work they've done.

By the way, this also prompts me to ask another question: Which part of this work was Phillip's and which was the work of Charles? It is all very lovely!

mross · 12th July 2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePepperSkull

If for purely aesthetic reasons, I disagree. The dress that charles and phillip have chosen for the blade are beautiful and simple, which let the beauty of the blade take the spotlight so to speak while at the same time not detracting from the piece as a whole. I myself quite enjoy the work they've done.

By the way, this also prompts me to ask another question: Which part of this work was Phillip's and which was the work of Charles? It is all very lovely!

Phillip did the polish and all work supporting it, taking a bend out of the blade redoing some of the groves etc. and the scabbard. Charles did the handle wrap.

I have it from a very reliable source that the "real" original handle would have been a small ivory kakatu and it would have had baca-baca. However, I think the original handle was replaced for what ever reason so long ago that it spent most of it's existance in the restored current state.

11th March 2010, 11:27 PM	#3
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	Interesting pic from a members website, from a sword that doesn't appear to have been worked on for sometime. Last edited by Rick; 11th March 2010 at 11:51 PM. Reason: item for sale

11th March 2010, 11:49 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	I respectfully suggest that the one shown in the link is much more recent . Sorry for the edit Bill, but tis agin the rules to post items for sale in the discussion forums .

12th March 2010, 05:14 AM	#5
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	Sorry didn't mean to break the rules. Didn't mean the original posting but the later example. I don't have a good knowledge of metals but trying to attach/adhere two different metals is tough. A flimsy piece of metal won't stick to the steel blade. My first thought was later functionality. Appears there's something more. Perhaps it is just decoration, but I 'm somewhat leery of that. Talismanic? This is a great posting, in the sense of, restoration vs. preserving. I don't think the hilt represents the original sword & on the other hand, changing the wear, removes history/use. It is easy to see that many of these swords are being "updated". I'm guilty of repairing/replacing. Difference between nickel & silver is only $10/less in most cases of repairs. The original sword, in this posting deserves better dress & on the other hand, it should be preserved. Don't know right answer.

12th March 2010, 06:21 AM	#6
hideyoshi Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 58	[QUOTE=Bill]Sorry didn't mean to break the rules. Didn't mean the original posting but the later example. I don't have a good knowledge of metals but trying to attach/adhere two different metals is tough. A flimsy piece of metal won't stick to the steel blade. My first thought was later functionality. Appears there's something more. Perhaps it is just decoration, but I 'm somewhat leery of that. Talismanic? Good point Bill, due to the traces of scrolled ingravings on some of this plates.