Moro Twist Core Reborn

[mross]

Very, very nice. So it's just for looks, that makes sense. I could not see it doing anything, it's way to flimsy. Thanks.

[Rick]

I have a problem with this piece .
The resto is very nice .
But
I don't believe that the hilt is original to the piece, rather a later replacement of the original .

The hilt is not the same caliber of quality as the kris .
It may have lost its stirrups so long ago that there is no trace of their existence left .

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by Rick

I have a problem with this piece .
The resto is very nice .
But
I don't believe that the hilt is original to the piece, rather a later replacement of the original .

The hilt is not the same caliber of quality as the kris .
It may have lost its stirrups so long ago that there is no trace of their existence left .

The hilt can well be a later replacement and probably is but by later I would say a period replacement circa 1900ish, I say this as the image on page 53 of Cato's Moro Swords shows one that is almost in identical profile so very possible when redone it was a true reflection of the original....

Gav

[hideyoshi]

Originally Posted by mross

Very, very nice. So it's just for looks, that makes sense. I could not see it doing anything, it's way to flimsy. Thanks.

This are so thinly covering to the guard, the tang portion was pre-cut and the plate is stapled with 3-4 tinny spikes into the metal guard and then finally re-inforced with the clamp/asang-asang, most i've seen had been badly damaged. Your's is missing the grenning side covering of the guard.

[mross]

Originally Posted by hideyoshi

This are so thinly covering to the guard, the tang portion was pre-cut and the plate is stapled with 3-4 tinny spikes into the metal guard and then finally inforced with the clamp/asang-asang, most i've seen had been badly damaged. Your's is missing the grenning side covering of the guard.

Looks that way. That seems to support Rick's thoughts about a replacement hilt. The grenning side was lost during the re-hilt. I can buy that. If anyone is wondering the original wrap is not lost, it was saved.

[Gavin Nugent]

Originally Posted by mross

Looks that way. That seems to support Rick's thoughts about a replacement hilt. The grenning side was lost during the re-hilt. I can buy that. If anyone is wondering the original wrap is not lost, it was saved.

Great to hear. I never did look at it too close but is appeared to be very unusual, what material do you think it is? I kinda got an old knitted wool kinda feel but the 2 brain cells are struggling to recall.

Gav

[mross]

Originally Posted by freebooter

Great to hear. I never did look at it too close but is appeared to be very unusual, what material do you think it is? I kinda got an old knitted wool kinda feel but the 2 brain cells are struggling to recall.

Gav

No idea, as I know nothing of Philippine textiles. I'm taking a guess and saying; pinya cloth, a sheer fabric made of fibers of the leaf of the pineapple plant, I found it on a Philippine Textile web site.

[Bill]

Interesting pic from a members website, from a sword that doesn't appear to have been worked on for sometime.

[Rick]

I respectfully suggest that the one shown in the link is much more recent .

Sorry for the edit Bill, but tis agin the rules to post items for sale in the discussion forums .

[ThePepperSkull]

Originally Posted by mross

Very, very nice. So it's just for looks, that makes sense. I could not see it doing anything, it's way to flimsy. Thanks.

Definitely could have been there for decorative purposes. I have seen some Keris Sundang Melayu with baca-baca that were similarly not attatched to any stirrups as well.