shark tooth weapon.

VANDOO · 23rd February 2010, 12:15 AM

THE DAGGER THAT STARTED THIS POST IS STRAIGHT AND HAS A LANYARD SO I SUSPECT IT WAS ONLY USED FOR A DAGGER. THERE ARE MANY SIMULAR CURVED DAGGERS THAT WERE OFTEN USED AS GAURDS ON THE LONGER WEAPONS AND ARE OFTEN FOUND DETACHED.

A PICTURE OF THIS GAURD IT HAS A SINGLE BUT I HAVE SEEN THEM WITH A DOUBBLE GAURD.

A PICTURE OF A SAWFISH WEAPON WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY THE INSPIRATION FOR SHARK TOOTH WEAPONS OF THE SORT FOUND ON THE GILBERT IS. IT IS NOT A SLASHING WEAPON BUT ONE THAT INFLICTS DEEP MULTIPLE PUNCTURES AND POSSIBLY BROKEN BONES.

A PICTURE OF A WARRIOR IN ARMOR WITH A LONG POLE ARM I HAVE SEEN A 6 FOOT ONE BUT THIS APPEARS TO BE LONGER.

A EXAMPLE OF A OLD CURVED SWORD 25 INCHES LONG

A EXAMPLE OF THE CURRENT SOUVINEER OR CEREMONIAL TYPE WITH DECORATIVE FIBER COVER.

Nathaniel · 24th February 2010, 02:45 AM

A few years back I stumbled upon the Hawai'ian martial Art of Lua.

Off the 'Õlohe Solomon Kaihewalu Lua Hâlau O Kaihewalu Schools website here is a list they have of weapons...some of which you see are shark tooth lined:

http://www.olohe.com/weapons-of-lua.html

chregu · 4th March 2010, 09:17 PM

Hi Fearn
I found something in the internet. in tepapa Museum in New Sealand.
The bestzen 2 pce with images. But there they are called Rere shark tooth weapon.
Are you sure that Tetoanea is the name, or did you simply read on the specified link?
gruss chregu

fearn · 8th March 2010, 08:19 PM

Hi Chregu,

You could be right. See URL=http://www.trussel.com/kir/less01.htm]link to Kiribati language[/URL] . Thanks for spotting that. I took the names in the illustration at face value (it's from an old ethnographic report I checked out of the library many years ago), but it looks like rere is in the dictionary I linked to, but tetoanea is not. Learned something new!

Best,

F

VANDOO · 27th July 2010, 07:39 PM

I JUST CAME ACROSS THIS OLD PICTURE OF THE WAY FIGHTS WERE SET UP IN THE MARSHALL ISLANDS IN THE OLD DAYS. NOTE SOME HAD THE HEAVY FIBER ARMOR AND OTHERS DID NOT, ALSO NOTE THE LEGNTH OF THE WEAPONS. ONE OF THE WEAPONS APPEARS TO HAVE THE DOUBBLE SHORTER GAURDS GIVING IT THREE POINTS KIND OF LIKE A BIG TRIDENT. I DON'T HAVE THE SOFTWARE TO CLEAN UP THE PHOTO SO IF ANYONE ELSE DOES FEEL FREE TO IMPROVE IT.

I CAN'T ACTUALLY SEE THE SHARK TEETH BUT SUSPECT THEY ARE THERE.

fearn · 28th July 2010, 01:00 AM

Hi Vandoo,

Is that Marshalls, or Kiribati (Gilberts)? I thought that sennit armor was unique to Kiribati.

Best,

F

VANDOO · 28th July 2010, 02:34 AM

THOSE ARE ALL THE VARIOUS NAMES FOR THE SAME ISLANDS OVER TIME. KIRABATI IS THE LATEST NAME FOR THEM THESE PICTURES WOULD HAVE DATED FROM THE MARSHALL OR KINGSMILL DAYS.

23rd February 2010, 12:15 AM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE DAGGER THAT STARTED THIS POST IS STRAIGHT AND HAS A LANYARD SO I SUSPECT IT WAS ONLY USED FOR A DAGGER. THERE ARE MANY SIMULAR CURVED DAGGERS THAT WERE OFTEN USED AS GAURDS ON THE LONGER WEAPONS AND ARE OFTEN FOUND DETACHED. A PICTURE OF THIS GAURD IT HAS A SINGLE BUT I HAVE SEEN THEM WITH A DOUBBLE GAURD. A PICTURE OF A SAWFISH WEAPON WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY THE INSPIRATION FOR SHARK TOOTH WEAPONS OF THE SORT FOUND ON THE GILBERT IS. IT IS NOT A SLASHING WEAPON BUT ONE THAT INFLICTS DEEP MULTIPLE PUNCTURES AND POSSIBLY BROKEN BONES. A PICTURE OF A WARRIOR IN ARMOR WITH A LONG POLE ARM I HAVE SEEN A 6 FOOT ONE BUT THIS APPEARS TO BE LONGER. A EXAMPLE OF A OLD CURVED SWORD 25 INCHES LONG A EXAMPLE OF THE CURRENT SOUVINEER OR CEREMONIAL TYPE WITH DECORATIVE FIBER COVER. Attached Images

4th March 2010, 09:17 PM	#3
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	Tetoanea or Rere ? Hi Fearn I found something in the internet. in tepapa Museum in New Sealand. The bestzen 2 pce with images. But there they are called Rere shark tooth weapon. Are you sure that Tetoanea is the name, or did you simply read on the specified link? gruss chregu

27th July 2010, 07:39 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I JUST CAME ACROSS THIS OLD PICTURE OF THE WAY FIGHTS WERE SET UP IN THE MARSHALL ISLANDS IN THE OLD DAYS. NOTE SOME HAD THE HEAVY FIBER ARMOR AND OTHERS DID NOT, ALSO NOTE THE LEGNTH OF THE WEAPONS. ONE OF THE WEAPONS APPEARS TO HAVE THE DOUBBLE SHORTER GAURDS GIVING IT THREE POINTS KIND OF LIKE A BIG TRIDENT. I DON'T HAVE THE SOFTWARE TO CLEAN UP THE PHOTO SO IF ANYONE ELSE DOES FEEL FREE TO IMPROVE IT. I CAN'T ACTUALLY SEE THE SHARK TEETH BUT SUSPECT THEY ARE THERE. Attached Images

24th February 2010, 02:45 AM	#2
Nathaniel Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 865	A few years back I stumbled upon the Hawai'ian martial Art of Lua. Off the 'Õlohe Solomon Kaihewalu Lua Hâlau O Kaihewalu Schools website here is a list they have of weapons...some of which you see are shark tooth lined: http://www.olohe.com/weapons-of-lua.html

8th March 2010, 08:19 PM	#4
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Hi Chregu, You could be right. See URL=http://www.trussel.com/kir/less01.htm]link to Kiribati language[/URL] . Thanks for spotting that. I took the names in the illustration at face value (it's from an old ethnographic report I checked out of the library many years ago), but it looks like rere is in the dictionary I linked to, but tetoanea is not. Learned something new! Best, F

28th July 2010, 01:00 AM	#6
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Hi Vandoo, Is that Marshalls, or Kiribati (Gilberts)? I thought that sennit armor was unique to Kiribati. Best, F

28th July 2010, 02:34 AM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THOSE ARE ALL THE VARIOUS NAMES FOR THE SAME ISLANDS OVER TIME. KIRABATI IS THE LATEST NAME FOR THEM THESE PICTURES WOULD HAVE DATED FROM THE MARSHALL OR KINGSMILL DAYS.