CONFEDERATE CIVIL WAR ANTIQUE BOWIE KNIFE-TENNESSEE

David · 18th February 2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill

One of the largest exhibitors at the Milwaukee gun show has a very nice one, he is convinced it is one of the earliest Klan daggers.
I've explained to him what it is & made him good offers but he's convinced it's early Klan & wants several thousand.

I think Rick is right in that this guy probably invested way too much on this knife in his ignorance. Ignorance is bliss they say.
In this on-line information age in which we live there is really no excuse for this kind of blind ignorance though. Just direct him to this Wiki page next time you see him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katipunan

mross · 18th February 2010, 04:58 PM

Well, it's pretty clear it's not what it's advertised to be. It's always a good idea to buy the blade and not the story. That having been said it looks like a well made piece with some age to it. More than I would spend on it but not unreasonable.

David · 18th February 2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mross

Well, it's pretty clear it's not what it's advertised to be. It's always a good idea to buy the blade and not the story. That having been said it looks like a well made piece with some age to it. More than I would spend on it but not unreasonable.

Well that is the problem here i think. We can't buy the blade because the assumed story prices it out of our market. Confederate Civil War items command an obscene amount of money at times. This is undoubtably a nice P.I. item (with some condition issues), but at that price i'm not going to touch it.

Robert · 18th February 2010, 05:39 PM

Yes, on the whole this is a very well made dagger, probably second quarter of the 20th century, though it could be earlier and just had new fittings added at a later date. What really makes me wonder about is what the buyer was thinking when he bought this dagger, did he buy it knowing it was from the Philippines, or did he buy the Civil War story? If he bought the story how much aluminum and water buffalo horn did he think was being used during the American Civil War era?

Take a close look at the band behind the guard and grip material and tell me what you think.

Robert

mross · 18th February 2010, 05:53 PM

The optimist in may says the buyer knew what they where buying. The pictures where decent. It would be intresting to make note of the transaction number keep and eye on the seller's feed back and see what transpires.

Robert · 18th February 2010, 06:01 PM

"It would be intresting to make note of the transaction number keep and eye on the seller's feed back and see what transpires."

I was already planning on doing just that.

Robert

Bill · 18th February 2010, 07:59 PM

Side-note, a recent episode of "Pawn Stars" had a fellow bring in a heavily engraved Confederate sword. Rick, the owner, immediately was concerned about it being too nice & called in an expert. The expert didn't find any "proof" it was a fake or enhanced but would not verify authenticity or recommend it's purchase just because of the amount of fakes or altered pieces now on the market.
Be interesting to see a "Klan" knife brought into the store & see if they immediately know what it is.

18th February 2010, 05:39 PM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Yes, on the whole this is a very well made dagger, probably second quarter of the 20th century, though it could be earlier and just had new fittings added at a later date. What really makes me wonder about is what the buyer was thinking when he bought this dagger, did he buy it knowing it was from the Philippines, or did he buy the Civil War story? If he bought the story how much aluminum and water buffalo horn did he think was being used during the American Civil War era? Take a close look at the band behind the guard and grip material and tell me what you think. Robert Last edited by Robert Coleman; 18th February 2010 at 05:58 PM.

18th February 2010, 04:58 PM	#2
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	Well, it's pretty clear it's not what it's advertised to be. It's always a good idea to buy the blade and not the story. That having been said it looks like a well made piece with some age to it. More than I would spend on it but not unreasonable.

18th February 2010, 05:53 PM	#5
mross Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 478	The optimist in may says the buyer knew what they where buying. The pictures where decent. It would be intresting to make note of the transaction number keep and eye on the seller's feed back and see what transpires.

18th February 2010, 06:01 PM	#6
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	"It would be intresting to make note of the transaction number keep and eye on the seller's feed back and see what transpires." I was already planning on doing just that. Robert

18th February 2010, 07:59 PM	#7
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	Side-note, a recent episode of "Pawn Stars" had a fellow bring in a heavily engraved Confederate sword. Rick, the owner, immediately was concerned about it being too nice & called in an expert. The expert didn't find any "proof" it was a fake or enhanced but would not verify authenticity or recommend it's purchase just because of the amount of fakes or altered pieces now on the market. Be interesting to see a "Klan" knife brought into the store & see if they immediately know what it is.