Wood Daggers

chregu · 3rd February 2010, 08:39 AM

hello Dimasalang
Thanks for the detailed description.
When I bought the daggers, (there are only two with the colored thread) they told me that they were from Central or South America. then there are also palm trees. If you are the botanical name of the palm, the one on the Philippines could be to find out, I would be grateful to you.
with friendly greetings chregu

VANDOO · 3rd February 2010, 09:39 PM

THIS SORT OF WOODEN DAGGER WAS USED THRUOUT POLYNESIA AS WELL AS IN SOUTH AMERICA. THEY MAY STILL BE USED IN NEW GUINEA AND PARTS OF SOUTH AMERICA WHERE SOME TRIBES STILL LIVE IN A VERY PRIMATIVE WAY. I HAVE HEARD THIS TYPE OF WOOD REFERRED TO AS BLACK PALM BUT DON'T KNOW THE SCIENTIFIC NAME. I HAVE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES IN THE SAME FORM AS THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PICTURE THAT ARE FROM MICRONESIA BUT ARE OF A DIFFERENT TYPE OF WOOD.
I HAVE A CLUB SIMULAR TO THE ONE YOU HAVE WITHOUT THE COLORFUL STRING BINDINGS. MINE IS FROM BRAZIL ,MATO GROSSO STATE, TXICAO TRIBE. THE TXICAO ARE DECENDED FROM THE KARIB LINGUISTIC FAMILY.

Dimasalang · 4th February 2010, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chregu

hello Dimasalang
Thanks for the detailed description.
When I bought the daggers, (there are only two with the colored thread) they told me that they were from Central or South America. then there are also palm trees. If you are the botanical name of the palm, the one on the Philippines could be to find out, I would be grateful to you.
with friendly greetings chregu

There are two main palms in the Philippines that are now defined as "Bahi" wood. The coco palm and the Anahaw. The coco palm is mass produced and is now passed off as BAHI for the main market...most sellers will say, yes it is Anahaw just to get you to buy it. Anahaw bahi wood is more rare, more authentic, and said to be more stronger...in other words, the real deal. From what my wife says, the Anahaw palm is not a large palm tree either. I have a Kamagong stick and Bahi stick that are the same exact size, and the bahi stick is heavier and feels just as dense.

http://en.wikipilipinas.org/index.ph...a_rotundifolia

Like I mentioned, Philippines I know for a fact aren't the only ones who used palm tree wood. What is interesting, for some reason palm wood is getting popular here in the US now, I would guess because of the decorative different look it gives off...but I read it is also very hard to work with. The supply is coming from South America and they are calling it Black Palm and Red Palm. I notice the grains/fibers are not as tight as what I see coming from the Philippines...so I doubt they are more dense and stronger, and possibly more comparable to the Philippines coco bahi palm wood.

3rd February 2010, 08:39 AM	#1
chregu Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: switzerland Posts: 298	hello Dimasalang Thanks for the detailed description. When I bought the daggers, (there are only two with the colored thread) they told me that they were from Central or South America. then there are also palm trees. If you are the botanical name of the palm, the one on the Philippines could be to find out, I would be grateful to you. with friendly greetings chregu

3rd February 2010, 09:39 PM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THIS SORT OF WOODEN DAGGER WAS USED THRUOUT POLYNESIA AS WELL AS IN SOUTH AMERICA. THEY MAY STILL BE USED IN NEW GUINEA AND PARTS OF SOUTH AMERICA WHERE SOME TRIBES STILL LIVE IN A VERY PRIMATIVE WAY. I HAVE HEARD THIS TYPE OF WOOD REFERRED TO AS BLACK PALM BUT DON'T KNOW THE SCIENTIFIC NAME. I HAVE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES IN THE SAME FORM AS THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PICTURE THAT ARE FROM MICRONESIA BUT ARE OF A DIFFERENT TYPE OF WOOD. I HAVE A CLUB SIMULAR TO THE ONE YOU HAVE WITHOUT THE COLORFUL STRING BINDINGS. MINE IS FROM BRAZIL ,MATO GROSSO STATE, TXICAO TRIBE. THE TXICAO ARE DECENDED FROM THE KARIB LINGUISTIC FAMILY.