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Emanuel · 11th January 2010, 06:14 PM

Hi Emo,

It's good that you posted the saif here. You should post the shotel as well, we like building up the forum database with good examples.

Cheers,
Emanuel

Emil Slavov · 11th January 2010, 07:35 PM

more pics-saif

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next - pics of shotel

best regards
Emo

Emil Slavov · 11th January 2010, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emanuel

Hi Emo,

It's good that you posted the saif here. You should post the shotel as well, we like building up the forum database with good examples.

Cheers,
Emanuel

shotel pics coming

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cheers to all
Emo

Jim McDougall · 11th January 2010, 08:18 PM

Hi Sarkis,
These straight sa'if blades were of the type produced in England, as well from German producers in the early 20th century. The examples hilted in Arabia tended to be more elaborate in the hilts, many silverwork.
Sarkis Terzian (1868-1915) was as mentioned, an importer who was instrumental in acquiring weapons for Menelik II from the latter 19th century into the 20th I believe. It would stand to reason that the initial O may have been that of a relative, but I do not have further details on this importer.
The English blades were typically marked as Wilkinson, or if made by Mole (in the 1920's acquired by Wilkinson) would have been stamped.

The German producers seem to have produced 'blanks' with the floral motif, and would have been stamped at forte by the supplier as these are.

I agree with Emanuel, please post others so we can keep adding to the archives here and add to the compendium of data.

All best regards,
Jim

Rick · 11th January 2010, 10:48 PM

Thread closed .
At least 1 of these item/s is currently for sale elsewhere .

Emil, you need to read the Forum rules ..

11th January 2010, 06:14 PM	#1
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Hi Emo, It's good that you posted the saif here. You should post the shotel as well, we like building up the forum database with good examples. Cheers, Emanuel Last edited by Emanuel; 11th January 2010 at 06:29 PM.

11th January 2010, 07:35 PM	#2
Emil Slavov Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 8	about saif and shotel more pics-saif ] next - pics of shotel best regards Emo

11th January 2010, 08:18 PM	#4
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,295	Hi Sarkis, These straight sa'if blades were of the type produced in England, as well from German producers in the early 20th century. The examples hilted in Arabia tended to be more elaborate in the hilts, many silverwork. Sarkis Terzian (1868-1915) was as mentioned, an importer who was instrumental in acquiring weapons for Menelik II from the latter 19th century into the 20th I believe. It would stand to reason that the initial O may have been that of a relative, but I do not have further details on this importer. The English blades were typically marked as Wilkinson, or if made by Mole (in the 1920's acquired by Wilkinson) would have been stamped. The German producers seem to have produced 'blanks' with the floral motif, and would have been stamped at forte by the supplier as these are. I agree with Emanuel, please post others so we can keep adding to the archives here and add to the compendium of data. All best regards, Jim

11th January 2010, 10:48 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Thread closed . At least 1 of these item/s is currently for sale elsewhere . Emil, you need to read the Forum rules ..