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Old 15th December 2004, 10:16 PM   #1
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I'm happy to leave this thread open provided the topic can be discussed appropriately.

To do that, Rivkin, you might consider providing a source for your premise.
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Old 16th December 2004, 03:16 AM   #2
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Ok, I'm sorry if I insulted anyone - probably I just misunderstood something:
"Hadith 4:165 'Aisha:
Allah's Apostle died while his (iron) armor was mortgaged to a Jew for thirty Sas of barley."

Sorry if I misunderstood the meaning. Concerning Zulfakar - I always thought Ali got it from Mohammed.
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Old 16th December 2004, 03:22 AM   #3
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Now I remembered where I've got this idea. The lesson I remember was starting with how different people tried to kill Mohammed, and ended with this one (even trhough I don't remember what was in the middle), so it somehow all connected in my head.
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Old 16th December 2004, 11:46 AM   #4
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Every so often one will find a bifurcated sword design in inlay or cloth on a banner that represents the sword of Ali. If I can find my picture of one in the MET I will post it.
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Old 16th December 2004, 10:27 PM   #5
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This is an old thread on the subject

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001968.html
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Old 17th December 2004, 03:42 AM   #6
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To the best of my knowledge, Mohammed died of some kind of fever at age 63. Not an unusual occurence at a pre-antibiotic era. At that stage of the game, surviving till 63 was not a mean achievement....
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