Philippines Ethnographic Weapons Museum

Bill M · 31st December 2009, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Well, there is one particular Bali keris on Eriksedge.com that i have personally seen for sale on eBay 3 different times.

That said i don't think watermarks or tracking is the answer. I know i have been on sites that simply do not allow me to click-an-drag images to my desktop. I don't know what software they use, but it can't be that expensive to set up.

If you are talking about the one you click on to see other keris, that Bali keris is mine. Really a neat one with a large gold mendak. I have also seen it on eBay! The first time it happened, I ran to see if it was still in my drawer. It was, so I called Erik. We got eBay to pull it.

Gavin Nugent · 31st December 2009, 10:38 PM

My website costs for hosting are minimal, about 75AUD per year for domain name registration, much cheaper if you buy for longer, about $260aud per year for web hosting (5 GB web space(heaps) and 200GB of data transfer...I am sure there are cheaper options out there too but choose a reputable and long standing firm with a history of quality service.....the real costs come with the set up and programming but the level of experience here should negate any costs involved for this aspect.....good to see you back posting Bill.

My best to all for the year ahead.

Gav

ThePepperSkull · 1st January 2010, 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Marsh

If you are talking about the one you click on to see other keris, that Bali keris is mine. Really a neat one with a large gold mendak. I have also seen it on eBay! The first time it happened, I ran to see if it was still in my drawer. It was, so I called Erik. We got eBay to pull it.

That's hysterical!

Bill M · 1st January 2010, 05:53 PM

Here is the Bali keris
http://www.eriksedge.com/indonesian....esian%20Swords

The three barongs you click on are also mine in case you see them on eBay!
http://www.eriksedge.com/moro.php?id...e=_Moro_Swords

I like Erik. Good guy.

But what can we do about getting a Philippine Weapons, artifacts and history website?

VANDOO · 2nd January 2010, 06:39 AM

PERHAPS A SIMPLE (NOT FOR SALE) OR (REFRENCE ONLY) ACROSS THE BLADE OF THE PICTURE OF THE ENTIRE SWORD MIGHT ELIMINATE THE USE FOR ELICIT EBAY SALES. THE CLOSEUPS WOULD NOT REQUIRE IT AS IT IS UNLIKELY SOMEONE WOULD TRY TO SELL AN ITEM WITHOUT A PICTURE OF THE TOTAL ITEM.

THE DOWN SIDE OF FIXING ALL PICTURES WHERE NO ONE CAN ACCESS THEM AND SAVE THEM IS THEIR LOSS.
THOSE WHO DEAL IN EDGED WEAPONS BUY AND SELL MORE ITEMS THAN MOST COLLECTORS OR MUSEUMS WILL LIKELY EVER SEE. ONCE THEY ARE SOLD THE PICTURES ARE CANCELLED AND THE ITEM MAY REMAIN IN A COLLECTION FOR MANY YEARS IF IT EVER SURFACES AGAIN AND THE INFORMATION MAY BE LOST IF IT DOES. THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION AND REFRENCE LOST OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE OF THIS IS HUGE.
THE MUSEUM OF HISTORICAL ARMS, HOUSE OF SWORDS AND MANY OTHER DEALERS WHO HANDLED LARGE NUMBERS OF ITEMS FOR MANY YEARS COME TO MIND.
A REFRENCE SIGHT ON THE INTERNET WITH PICTURES AND THE PROVENENCE COULD PRESERVE THIS INFO. PERHAPS SUCH A SITE COULD GET PERMISSION FROM SOME DEALERS TO USE THEIR PICTURES AND INFORMATION ON THEIR SITE. I HAD BEEN SAVING PICTURES SINCE 2001 FOR SUCH A REFRENCE BUT COMPUTERS BEING WHAT THEY ARE MOST OF MY INFORMATION WAS CORRUPTED AND LOST. I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED

I HAD ALL MY INFORMATION IN SEPARATE FOLDERS SUCH AS AFRICA WITH SUB FOLDERS BY COUNTRY OR TRIBE. I ALSO WENT BY SUBJECT SUCH AS A FOLDER ON ALL SORTS OF SHIELDS, ECT.
I JUST TOOK ANY PICTURES THAT HAD A GOOD PICTURE OF A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE WITH NO REGARD AS TO WHERE I GOT THE PICTURE AND INFORMATION. I WASN'T TRYING TO STEAL SOMEONES PICTURE OR TO USE SOMETHING WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION FROM THE PERSON FOR ITS USE. I WAS SIMPLY TRYING TO PRESERVE THE INFORMATION FOR FUTURE REFRENCE FOR US ALL. LOTS OF TIME IS INVOLVED IN FINDING AND PUTTING WHAT GOOD INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE WITH THE PICTURES. I WAS TOO LAZY TO SEND NUMEROUS EMAILS OR MAIL TO ASK PERMISSION FOR EVERY PICTURE TO SAVE TIME AND AGRAVATION.
SO I WISH YOU LUCK ON ANY PROJECTS YOU MAY START BUT KEEP A GOOD UNCORRUPTABLE FILE AND BACKUP. IF I CAN GET THINGS WORKING AGAIN WITH MY COMPUTER I MAY BE ABLE TO ADD TO THE DATA BASE.

migueldiaz · 5th January 2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Marsh

But what can we do about getting a Philippine Weapons, artifacts and history website?

Hello, Bill

Thanks for your interest in this thread that Nonoy started. As for that proposed virtual museum, I really hope that somebody can put that up. And what TC mentioned about using a clickable and mouse-hoverable Philippine map as the home (default) webpage is a great idea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VANDOO

SO I WISH YOU LUCK ON ANY PROJECTS YOU MAY START BUT KEEP A GOOD UNCORRUPTABLE FILE AND BACKUP. IF I CAN GET THINGS WORKING AGAIN WITH MY COMPUTER I MAY BE ABLE TO ADD TO THE DATA BASE.

Vandoo, thanks for the comments also. And we do hope that you can bring back from the land of the shadows

those old pics of yours.

By the way, if one collects pictures at the Internet just for personal use, I think one does not need to get the author's permission.

In fact even if one publishes the pics in a forum like EEWRS/EAAF, or in an educational site, etc., such usage still falls under the "fair use" concept and prior permission from the author is not necessary (of course as much as possible the source has to be mentioned, and the use has to be non-commercial, etc.).

Happy New Year to each one ...

t_c · 5th January 2010, 08:59 PM

migueldiaz: Nice site you have going there.

I have been playing with this interface idea at home and made some progress (it's turned into my EEWRS study guide project). Right now I've got 3 maps all keyed to the same defined (clickable) areas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ph..._provinces.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ph...r_province.PNG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ph_physical_map.png

Anyone have any suggestions/thoughts regarding maps for a project like this?

31st December 2009, 10:38 PM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Website costs My website costs for hosting are minimal, about 75AUD per year for domain name registration, much cheaper if you buy for longer, about $260aud per year for web hosting (5 GB web space(heaps) and 200GB of data transfer...I am sure there are cheaper options out there too but choose a reputable and long standing firm with a history of quality service.....the real costs come with the set up and programming but the level of experience here should negate any costs involved for this aspect.....good to see you back posting Bill. My best to all for the year ahead. Gav

1st January 2010, 05:53 PM	#4
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Here is the Bali keris http://www.eriksedge.com/indonesian....esian%20Swords The three barongs you click on are also mine in case you see them on eBay! http://www.eriksedge.com/moro.php?id...e=_Moro_Swords I like Erik. Good guy. But what can we do about getting a Philippine Weapons, artifacts and history website?

2nd January 2010, 06:39 AM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	PERHAPS A SIMPLE (NOT FOR SALE) OR (REFRENCE ONLY) ACROSS THE BLADE OF THE PICTURE OF THE ENTIRE SWORD MIGHT ELIMINATE THE USE FOR ELICIT EBAY SALES. THE CLOSEUPS WOULD NOT REQUIRE IT AS IT IS UNLIKELY SOMEONE WOULD TRY TO SELL AN ITEM WITHOUT A PICTURE OF THE TOTAL ITEM. THE DOWN SIDE OF FIXING ALL PICTURES WHERE NO ONE CAN ACCESS THEM AND SAVE THEM IS THEIR LOSS. THOSE WHO DEAL IN EDGED WEAPONS BUY AND SELL MORE ITEMS THAN MOST COLLECTORS OR MUSEUMS WILL LIKELY EVER SEE. ONCE THEY ARE SOLD THE PICTURES ARE CANCELLED AND THE ITEM MAY REMAIN IN A COLLECTION FOR MANY YEARS IF IT EVER SURFACES AGAIN AND THE INFORMATION MAY BE LOST IF IT DOES. THE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION AND REFRENCE LOST OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE OF THIS IS HUGE. THE MUSEUM OF HISTORICAL ARMS, HOUSE OF SWORDS AND MANY OTHER DEALERS WHO HANDLED LARGE NUMBERS OF ITEMS FOR MANY YEARS COME TO MIND. A REFRENCE SIGHT ON THE INTERNET WITH PICTURES AND THE PROVENENCE COULD PRESERVE THIS INFO. PERHAPS SUCH A SITE COULD GET PERMISSION FROM SOME DEALERS TO USE THEIR PICTURES AND INFORMATION ON THEIR SITE. I HAD BEEN SAVING PICTURES SINCE 2001 FOR SUCH A REFRENCE BUT COMPUTERS BEING WHAT THEY ARE MOST OF MY INFORMATION WAS CORRUPTED AND LOST. I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED I HAD ALL MY INFORMATION IN SEPARATE FOLDERS SUCH AS AFRICA WITH SUB FOLDERS BY COUNTRY OR TRIBE. I ALSO WENT BY SUBJECT SUCH AS A FOLDER ON ALL SORTS OF SHIELDS, ECT. I JUST TOOK ANY PICTURES THAT HAD A GOOD PICTURE OF A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE WITH NO REGARD AS TO WHERE I GOT THE PICTURE AND INFORMATION. I WASN'T TRYING TO STEAL SOMEONES PICTURE OR TO USE SOMETHING WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION FROM THE PERSON FOR ITS USE. I WAS SIMPLY TRYING TO PRESERVE THE INFORMATION FOR FUTURE REFRENCE FOR US ALL. LOTS OF TIME IS INVOLVED IN FINDING AND PUTTING WHAT GOOD INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE WITH THE PICTURES. I WAS TOO LAZY TO SEND NUMEROUS EMAILS OR MAIL TO ASK PERMISSION FOR EVERY PICTURE TO SAVE TIME AND AGRAVATION. SO I WISH YOU LUCK ON ANY PROJECTS YOU MAY START BUT KEEP A GOOD UNCORRUPTABLE FILE AND BACKUP. IF I CAN GET THINGS WORKING AGAIN WITH MY COMPUTER I MAY BE ABLE TO ADD TO THE DATA BASE.

5th January 2010, 08:59 PM	#7
t_c Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: ca, usa Posts: 92	migueldiaz: Nice site you have going there. I have been playing with this interface idea at home and made some progress (it's turned into my EEWRS study guide project). Right now I've got 3 maps all keyed to the same defined (clickable) areas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ph..._provinces.png http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ph...r_province.PNG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ph_physical_map.png Anyone have any suggestions/thoughts regarding maps for a project like this?