hilt material ?

danny1976 · 29th December 2009, 07:09 PM

Hi Vandoo,

Thanks for youre deep going explanation on the hilt.
Personaly i also have the idea its a verry old one , because of the signs of wearing and handling this one.

It,s not realy big , about 8.5 cm but it has a nice weight .

what kind it is , i will just say if some one ask its sea ivory , but for know its standind quite nice on a madura keris at my home

Regards,

Danny

Marcokeris · 29th December 2009, 09:51 PM

About hit material.... is possible to see some good pic of rhino horn hit???

asomotif · 29th December 2009, 11:17 PM

I wonder if there are genuine rhino keris hilts.

But here is a nice thread on rhino :
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=ivory+rhino

David · 30th December 2009, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcokeris

About hit material.... is possible to see some good pic of rhino horn hit???

Well, i'd have to say that it might be appropriate for this forum if indeed someone could show us a keris hilt made of rhino, but i have never seen that. Still, even if someone has one to show it might be best to start a new thread on it.

Alam Shah · 3rd January 2010, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by David

Well, i'd have to say that it might be appropriate for this forum if indeed someone could show us a keris hilt made of rhino, but i have never seen that. Still, even if someone has one to show it might be best to start a new thread on it.

Hi Marco and David,

This is an example on a Sumatran keris..
http://alamshah.fotopic.net/p56026159.html

* see other pictures here.

David · 3rd January 2010, 01:52 AM

Wow, that's interesting. Sure looks like rhino to me. Why don't you start a thread on that Shahrial. I would love to see if others also have or have seen rhino keris hilts.

Marcokeris · 3rd January 2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alam Shah

Hi Marco and David,

This is an example on a Sumatran keris..
http://alamshah.fotopic.net/p56026159.html

* see other pictures here.

Thanks a lot Alam for the nice photos
Sure a beautiful rhino

Is the weigh of rhino material more llittle than an ivory/horn material of the same misure?
Is the surface of this material more similar to "velvet"?
Is this material less cold than ivory material to touch?
(sorry for my english)

Rick · 4th January 2010, 12:27 AM

From my experience Rhino can be quite rough if damaged or scuffed .

The horn can be finished quite smooth .

Rhino, to me, feels warmer than Gading .

The best part; Rhino horn gets sticky when wet; this is a good attribute for the hilt of any edged weapon .

Probably makes great pistol grips too .

Gustav · 5th January 2010, 11:40 AM

A rather bad picture (sorry!) of an early balu mekabun or veiled Durga hilt (in Europe before 1590), made from rhino-horn. This is the Deutschordens-Keris in Wien, I don't have the Krisdisk, but there must be a much more better depiction of it.

There is a chinese source (also Hasrinuksmo/Lumintu 1988: 19)mentioning short swords with rhino-horn hilts, send as a gift from Maharadja of Kahuripan to China (11 century?).

29th December 2009, 11:17 PM	#3
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,237	Rhino I wonder if there are genuine rhino keris hilts. But here is a nice thread on rhino : http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=ivory+rhino

5th January 2010, 11:40 AM	#9
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,295	A rather bad picture (sorry!) of an early balu mekabun or veiled Durga hilt (in Europe before 1590), made from rhino-horn. This is the Deutschordens-Keris in Wien, I don't have the Krisdisk, but there must be a much more better depiction of it. There is a chinese source (also Hasrinuksmo/Lumintu 1988: 19)mentioning short swords with rhino-horn hilts, send as a gift from Maharadja of Kahuripan to China (11 century?). Attached Images

29th December 2009, 07:09 PM	#1
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	Hi Vandoo, Thanks for youre deep going explanation on the hilt. Personaly i also have the idea its a verry old one , because of the signs of wearing and handling this one. It,s not realy big , about 8.5 cm but it has a nice weight . what kind it is , i will just say if some one ask its sea ivory , but for know its standind quite nice on a madura keris at my home Regards, Danny

29th December 2009, 09:51 PM	#2
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	About hit material.... is possible to see some good pic of rhino horn hit???

3rd January 2010, 01:52 AM	#6
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	Wow, that's interesting. Sure looks like rhino to me. Why don't you start a thread on that Shahrial. I would love to see if others also have or have seen rhino keris hilts.

4th January 2010, 12:27 AM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	From my experience Rhino can be quite rough if damaged or scuffed . The horn can be finished quite smooth . Rhino, to me, feels warmer than Gading . The best part; Rhino horn gets sticky when wet; this is a good attribute for the hilt of any edged weapon . Probably makes great pistol grips too .