Restore Tips ?

danny1976 · 25th December 2009, 10:48 PM

David ,

Thank you for youre photo,s , nice repair!

Mr Maisey,

Because english is not my native languege a question abouth the damp cloth , is what u mean with it, a cloth that is heated in a steamer untill its hot ? Sorry for this strange question

This kind of wood , is it used on the older style wranka,s or the more youner one,s ?

If it is a ""tourist"" wranka i wont repair it.

About the mendak , i did try to clean it and there is a little shine maybe it will turn up as a silver one but first i have to work on the hilt to get it loose.

Regards,

Danny

A. G. Maisey · 25th December 2009, 11:40 PM

What I mean by "damp cloth" is a piece of old sheet, or pillow case, made thoroughly wet and then wrung out. During the time it is wrapped around the wrongko it will probably dry out a bit, so you need to keep it damp.It can take several days sometimes before the old glue lets go.

Jati gembol is one of the traditional wrongko woods. This wrongko is not recent nor made as a souvenir.It is a correct Madura form.However, the pendok is incorrect, the one fitted is a Jogja pendok.

danny1976 · 25th December 2009, 11:59 PM

MR Maisey,

Thanks for explaining the damp cloth , i was already heating up the kukusan but i can turn it off

About the pendok , yes i know its djokja but it was on the keris when i bought it i will replace it when i find a proper old madura pendok.

I also have to clean the blade but i will work on the wranka first .

But i just want to find out first if this keris was old and worthy to restorate it , i think i will give it a try.

Regards,

A. G. Maisey · 26th December 2009, 02:52 AM

I think you will find that you are not wasting your time with this one, Danny. It has an old Pamekesan hilt fitted, I believe you will find the blade to be C1870-1930. The Jogja pendok looks OK, and old Madura pendok are very difficult to locate, and not as standardised as Jawa pendok.

asomotif · 26th December 2009, 10:11 AM

Nice restoration project.

Indeed I think it will be difficult to find a fitting madura pendok.
Are there still people in Indonesia who make madura pendoks ?

Ps. for me the big give away for madura pendoks is the sabre like bottom of the scabbard.
But are there other specific madura characeristics ?

Best regards,
Willem

danny1976 · 5th February 2010, 10:18 PM

After al the tips i did get and by searching the forum is the the result.
It,s not a prof restore , but for a first try i.m not unsatisfied.

and i realy did enjoy to work on this keris

I also cleaned the blade a little .
its a 13 luk. but i need some help with the dapur and the age.and is it a mudura blade or javanese?

A. G. Maisey · 6th February 2010, 12:50 AM

That's a pretty good result Danny. Nice work.

From the pics I cannot say with any certainty what this blade might be. Sorry.

5th February 2010, 10:18 PM	#6
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	result After al the tips i did get and by searching the forum is the the result. It,s not a prof restore , but for a first try i.m not unsatisfied. and i realy did enjoy to work on this keris I also cleaned the blade a little . its a 13 luk. but i need some help with the dapur and the age.and is it a mudura blade or javanese? Attached Images

25th December 2009, 10:48 PM	#1
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	David , Thank you for youre photo,s , nice repair! Mr Maisey, Because english is not my native languege a question abouth the damp cloth , is what u mean with it, a cloth that is heated in a steamer untill its hot ? Sorry for this strange question This kind of wood , is it used on the older style wranka,s or the more youner one,s ? If it is a ""tourist"" wranka i wont repair it. About the mendak , i did try to clean it and there is a little shine maybe it will turn up as a silver one but first i have to work on the hilt to get it loose. Regards, Danny

25th December 2009, 11:40 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,019	What I mean by "damp cloth" is a piece of old sheet, or pillow case, made thoroughly wet and then wrung out. During the time it is wrapped around the wrongko it will probably dry out a bit, so you need to keep it damp.It can take several days sometimes before the old glue lets go. Jati gembol is one of the traditional wrongko woods. This wrongko is not recent nor made as a souvenir.It is a correct Madura form.However, the pendok is incorrect, the one fitted is a Jogja pendok.

25th December 2009, 11:59 PM	#3
danny1976 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Holland Posts: 245	MR Maisey, Thanks for explaining the damp cloth , i was already heating up the kukusan but i can turn it off About the pendok , yes i know its djokja but it was on the keris when i bought it i will replace it when i find a proper old madura pendok. I also have to clean the blade but i will work on the wranka first . But i just want to find out first if this keris was old and worthy to restorate it , i think i will give it a try. Regards,

26th December 2009, 02:52 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,019	I think you will find that you are not wasting your time with this one, Danny. It has an old Pamekesan hilt fitted, I believe you will find the blade to be C1870-1930. The Jogja pendok looks OK, and old Madura pendok are very difficult to locate, and not as standardised as Jawa pendok.

26th December 2009, 10:11 AM	#5
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,235	Nice restoration project. Indeed I think it will be difficult to find a fitting madura pendok. Are there still people in Indonesia who make madura pendoks ? Ps. for me the big give away for madura pendoks is the sabre like bottom of the scabbard. But are there other specific madura characeristics ? Best regards, Willem

6th February 2010, 12:50 AM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,019	That's a pretty good result Danny. Nice work. From the pics I cannot say with any certainty what this blade might be. Sorry.