keris for comment

Sajen · 12th November 2009, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshah

You mean, the kinatah from Madura and Java is bold, while Sumatran style of kinatah is like a simple gold overlay (like a watercolour painting)?

BTW, nice kinatah on your Madura blades!

Thank you for the compliment of the Madura blade.
No, I mean that the kinatah from Sumatra isn't so strong attached like by Java or Bali blades. This is what I have seen by my both blades and some other blades. Would be interesting to read the knowlegde from other members.

Best,

Detlef

A. G. Maisey · 12th November 2009, 08:50 PM

What we are looking at here is a variation in technique, and a variation in quality, rather than a variation based on geographic origin.

Kinatah is where the individual elements of the motif have had gold applied to them. There are several ways that this can be done, some are better than others.

Where an overlay of gold has been applied to an entire section of metal, we are not looking at kinatah work.

The best kinatah work I have ever seen is on a Balinese royal keris; I have seen and I own several keris and tombak from South Sumatra and from Jawa that all have very good quality kinatah work.

It is a matter of the level of quality and the technique of ornamentation that has been used, rather than a matter of geographic origin.

semar · 14th November 2009, 06:59 AM

thank you al for your comment and the pendok I push I`m one his place

regards semar

12th November 2009, 08:50 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,019	What we are looking at here is a variation in technique, and a variation in quality, rather than a variation based on geographic origin. Kinatah is where the individual elements of the motif have had gold applied to them. There are several ways that this can be done, some are better than others. Where an overlay of gold has been applied to an entire section of metal, we are not looking at kinatah work. The best kinatah work I have ever seen is on a Balinese royal keris; I have seen and I own several keris and tombak from South Sumatra and from Jawa that all have very good quality kinatah work. It is a matter of the level of quality and the technique of ornamentation that has been used, rather than a matter of geographic origin.

14th November 2009, 06:59 AM	#3
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	thank you al for your comment and the pendok I push I`m one his place regards semar