Sumatran / Bugis ID

Moshah · 30th October 2009, 09:20 PM

I think you got a point there, Detlef.

Because of the norm, I've seen most bugis keris without its etching and on certain point, it is nice to see it like that.

But if the pamor is traceable and outstanding, etching seems to be just fine, as in case of your palembang gonjo iras blade...

Meanwhile in this case, perhaps do nothing is best

It is a keris in a good state, but do it really have some ages? It doesn't look new, nor did it looks too old as well...

Sajen · 30th October 2009, 09:49 PM

I think that it's an old one, but very difficult to say only by pictures.

BTW, which material is the pendok?

Moshah · 31st October 2009, 02:22 AM

I think it is silver, since there are blacky patch all over it. I could be mamas as well, but I have very limited knowledge on identifying one.

I must have some age, but detlef how could you ID that?

Moshah · 31st October 2009, 05:32 AM

I just got some opinion regarding of this keris:

The hilt and wronko is Bugis. Sheath is Sumatran.

Blade is Javanese, of dhapur Menderang, pamor Unthu Walang.

Somebody of extensive knowledge of Javanese keris might can approve this theory or not.

As my knowledge are limited, I wouldn't say it's a Javanese blade because it doesn't look like one.

I might be extremely wrong, however....

30th October 2009, 09:20 PM	#1
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	I think you got a point there, Detlef. Because of the norm, I've seen most bugis keris without its etching and on certain point, it is nice to see it like that. But if the pamor is traceable and outstanding, etching seems to be just fine, as in case of your palembang gonjo iras blade... Meanwhile in this case, perhaps do nothing is best It is a keris in a good state, but do it really have some ages? It doesn't look new, nor did it looks too old as well...

30th October 2009, 09:49 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,278	I think that it's an old one, but very difficult to say only by pictures. BTW, which material is the pendok?

31st October 2009, 02:22 AM	#3
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	I think it is silver, since there are blacky patch all over it. I could be mamas as well, but I have very limited knowledge on identifying one. I must have some age, but detlef how could you ID that?

31st October 2009, 05:32 AM	#4
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	I just got some opinion regarding of this keris: The hilt and wronko is Bugis. Sheath is Sumatran. Blade is Javanese, of dhapur Menderang, pamor Unthu Walang. Somebody of extensive knowledge of Javanese keris might can approve this theory or not. As my knowledge are limited, I wouldn't say it's a Javanese blade because it doesn't look like one. I might be extremely wrong, however....