little intro

Sajen · 23rd October 2009, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshah

Well, that a daunty task for a newcomer, isn't it?

Anyway, here are the closed up shots:

If it fails to appear again, then forgive me its my tutorial session ...

Only by doing you have real learning, isn't it? BTW, really good pictures!
To the hilt, I've thought to see a figural hilt but now it's clear, it's a kerdas hilt.

sajen

Moshah · 23rd October 2009, 07:21 PM

Indeed it is, Sajen. Now I know how to do it.

Yeah, I believe because of the inclination of the hilt in the first bunch of pix that David posted for me, it doesn't looks like much of a kerdas hilt.

The bigger pix seems to hamper your expectation. However, knowing the size of your hilt collection, it is understandable why..

Sorry, my composition a little bit awkward. And it's a kerdas anyway...

Moshah · 25th October 2009, 01:51 AM

I just wonder whether the hilt and warangka are made originally for this blade.

Is there any way to identify this?

Sajen · 29th October 2009, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshah

I just wonder whether the hilt and warangka are made originally for this blade.

Is there any way to identify this?

This is very difficult, special by the hilt. When a warangka is made for a blade it's your feeling how the blade fit's inside and the patination inside the sheat is also a sign if a sarung is original to a blade.

Moshah · 30th October 2009, 05:52 PM

Wow Sajen, if that's the case I guess I will never know it for sure!

Anyway, it is not that important, isn't it? I heard the blade can change sheath and hilt whenever the owner's have the dough...

Sajen · 30th October 2009, 06:48 PM

Indeed, you never will know it for sure, it is a guess from your feeling. But you can see if a sheat is worked for a keris or not. You are right, sometimes a keris have had more than one dress, one for every day use and one for special use, maybe wedding. And sometimes a expensive hilt was sold because the owner need money and the keris get a more simple hilt. I think that this is also the reason why there so much hilts without a blade.

(good for collecting)

Detlef

Moshah · 30th October 2009, 07:33 PM

Very well put, detlef!

it also make this hobby rather complicated, right?

Actually it is best that we can stick to original combo (of blade and its dress) but as you said, that would be inevitably impossible today...

23rd October 2009, 07:21 PM	#2
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Indeed it is, Sajen. Now I know how to do it. Yeah, I believe because of the inclination of the hilt in the first bunch of pix that David posted for me, it doesn't looks like much of a kerdas hilt. The bigger pix seems to hamper your expectation. However, knowing the size of your hilt collection, it is understandable why.. Sorry, my composition a little bit awkward. And it's a kerdas anyway...

25th October 2009, 01:51 AM	#3
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	I just wonder whether the hilt and warangka are made originally for this blade. Is there any way to identify this?

30th October 2009, 05:52 PM	#5
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Wow Sajen, if that's the case I guess I will never know it for sure! Anyway, it is not that important, isn't it? I heard the blade can change sheath and hilt whenever the owner's have the dough...

30th October 2009, 06:48 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,421	Indeed, you never will know it for sure, it is a guess from your feeling. But you can see if a sheat is worked for a keris or not. You are right, sometimes a keris have had more than one dress, one for every day use and one for special use, maybe wedding. And sometimes a expensive hilt was sold because the owner need money and the keris get a more simple hilt. I think that this is also the reason why there so much hilts without a blade. (good for collecting) Detlef

30th October 2009, 07:33 PM	#7
Moshah Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 171	Very well put, detlef! it also make this hobby rather complicated, right? Actually it is best that we can stick to original combo (of blade and its dress) but as you said, that would be inevitably impossible today...