Identification of a royal (family) with a Kris

kulbuntet · 14th October 2009, 12:09 PM

Ho Jonno,

What does the text under the photo say? regenten familie Java?

Since the knot of the head wrap is on front, i think they may ben conected to Solo Keraton. Maybe one of the Javanese forum members can help you more.

Regards Michel amsterdam

Jonno · 15th October 2009, 10:20 AM

Hi Michel,

Yes, the text "Regenten Familie, Java" is written on the photo. There is also text on the backside. I will make a picture this evening.

Thanks,
John

David · 15th October 2009, 07:55 PM

This probably won't help any since it is another unidentified photo, but as i was searching through google images for a match to your photo i came across this guy who looks like a relative to me.

A. G. Maisey · 15th October 2009, 11:23 PM

Here's two pics of PBX --- Paku Buwono Senopati ing Ngalogo Ngabdul Rahman Sayidin Panotogomo the Tenth --- Susuhunan of Surakarta.

Might be a bit difficult to pin down exactly who the people in Jonno's photo are. If the bloke is a regent, I'd translate that as Bupati, and that would make him a pretty minor figure. Might carry royal blood, but Javanese royals are pretty prevalent. PB XII who passed away a couple of years ago had 15 legitimate sons and 20 legitimate daughters. Previous rulers of Surakarta were at least as prolific.

David's pic looks like PBX to me.

A. G. Maisey · 15th October 2009, 11:32 PM

This is PB IX --- 1861-1893

Jonno · 16th October 2009, 09:29 AM

Hi Alan and David,

Thank you for showing these pictures.

I also collect old photographs from Indonesia. And I prefer royals and people with a keris.
Here some pictures from an old photo of PBX, period about 1912. He is wearing a Dutch uniform (garoet) of a major-general.

kulbuntet · 18th October 2009, 05:23 PM

Excelent photo! I can see a full four star general standing in the middle of him and his wife, wearing a knight cors on his neck.. who is he?

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

This is PB IX --- 1861-1893

Pb IX and his wife Raden Ajoe. Btw both are wearing Yoja dress. I have same photo here in a frame on the wall.

Gavin Nugent · 16th October 2022, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

This is PB IX --- 1861-1893

I was wondering who this chap was on the pommel end. I suspect it is him.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cduw1-8vmm1/

15th October 2009, 07:55 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,229	This probably won't help any since it is another unidentified photo, but as i was searching through google images for a match to your photo i came across this guy who looks like a relative to me. Attached Images

15th October 2009, 11:23 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Here's two pics of PBX --- Paku Buwono Senopati ing Ngalogo Ngabdul Rahman Sayidin Panotogomo the Tenth --- Susuhunan of Surakarta. Might be a bit difficult to pin down exactly who the people in Jonno's photo are. If the bloke is a regent, I'd translate that as Bupati, and that would make him a pretty minor figure. Might carry royal blood, but Javanese royals are pretty prevalent. PB XII who passed away a couple of years ago had 15 legitimate sons and 20 legitimate daughters. Previous rulers of Surakarta were at least as prolific. David's pic looks like PBX to me. Attached Images

15th October 2009, 11:32 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	This is PB IX --- 1861-1893 Attached Images

16th October 2009, 09:29 AM	#6
Jonno Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 51	Hi Alan and David, Thank you for showing these pictures. I also collect old photographs from Indonesia. And I prefer royals and people with a keris. Here some pictures from an old photo of PBX, period about 1912. He is wearing a Dutch uniform (garoet) of a major-general. Attached Images

14th October 2009, 12:09 PM	#1
kulbuntet Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands Posts: 159	Ho Jonno, What does the text under the photo say? regenten familie Java? Since the knot of the head wrap is on front, i think they may ben conected to Solo Keraton. Maybe one of the Javanese forum members can help you more. Regards Michel amsterdam

15th October 2009, 10:20 AM	#2
Jonno Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 51	Hi Michel, Yes, the text "Regenten Familie, Java" is written on the photo. There is also text on the backside. I will make a picture this evening. Thanks, John