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Old 29th September 2009, 11:52 AM   #1
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Alan, thank you very much for the interesting post.

My blade and the two examples comes from dealers in Lombok. The two examples probably would fit in your description of Tangguh Kupang. Mine has a similar (sand like) iron quality, and is well heat treated. The measurements are:

The length of the blade: 36,8 cm (14,5 inches)
The width of the gonjo: 8,2 cm (3,23 inches)

I supposed, the little bit elaborated ricikan details of keris of mine and the striking ricikan details of the keris of Blu Erf and Sipakatuo would be a Lombok influence. But in the book of Lalu Djelenga I found a picture of two similar keris, on page 203 with a note "Banyak keluar dari wilayah Bayan". I suppose it means, the blades are coming from Bayan willage in Lombok.
I would like to know, is there a Lombok influence in Sumbawa?
Some other pictures of my Keris Luk 15, and of a royal Keris from Sumbawa. It seems, Sumbawa has influences from everywhere. I will post also some pictures of a pedang from Sumbawa, shaped like a katana.
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Old 29th September 2009, 11:54 AM   #2
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A pedang from Sumbawa.
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Old 29th September 2009, 12:01 PM   #3
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And a Keris of mine, attributed to Sumbawa, with triple sogokan. A similar Keris, sold in the Malay Art Gallery: http://www.geocities.com/keris4u/ker...kal_3sogok.htm

But I also think, the pamor of my Keris, a kind of wos wutah, is typical for Lombok.
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Old 29th September 2009, 06:33 PM   #4
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Alan, thank you very much for the interesting post.

My blade and the two examples comes from dealers in Lombok. The two examples probably would fit in your description of Tangguh Kupang. Mine has a similar (sand like) iron quality, and is well heat treated. The measurements are:

The length of the blade: 36,8 cm (14,5 inches)
The width of the gonjo: 8,2 cm (3,23 inches)

I supposed, the little bit elaborated ricikan details of keris of mine and the striking ricikan details of the keris of Blu Erf and Sipakatuo would be a Lombok influence. But in the book of Lalu Djelenga I found a picture of two similar keris, on page 203 with a note "Banyak keluar dari wilayah Bayan". I suppose it means, the blades are coming from Bayan willage in Lombok.
I would like to know, is there a Lombok influence in Sumbawa?
Some other pictures of my Keris Luk 15, and of a royal Keris from Sumbawa. It seems, Sumbawa has influences from everywhere. I will post also some pictures of a pedang from Sumbawa, shaped like a katana.
I love the hit
From where it comes? Lombok or Kalimantan?
Are white stones yakut? What are red stones?
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Old 29th September 2009, 08:02 PM   #5
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Is this royal keris yours? It remembers me to a Banjarmasin keris.

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Old 29th September 2009, 08:43 PM   #6
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No, no!!!

I am not a bank director!

Both, the keris and pedang, are from a museum in Sumbawa.
(I thought, it is clear becouse of completely other picture quality )

Interesting thing with the hilt is, it seems to be a Tunggak Semi, and the warangka looks almost Sumatranese.
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No, no!!!

I am not a bank director!

Both, the keris and pedang, are from a museum in Sumbawa.
(I thought, it is clear becouse of completely other picture quality )

Interesting thing with the hilt is, it seems to be a Tunggak Semi, and the warangka looks almost Sumatranese.
I'm not a bank director too
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Old 29th September 2009, 09:24 PM   #8
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Dear Marco, welcome to the club!
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Dear Marco, welcome to the club!
Oh, we are three already!
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