Keris Bali

Alam Shah · 15th September 2009, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Well there we are:- we've got a new dhapur.

Dunno if Kraton Surakarta would accept it.
Probably OK in Kraton Warkoker though.

(Kraton Warkoker:- Kraton Warung Kopi Keris---Indonesians love acronyms)

Re the swan:- I reckon the maker was trying to express his need for recognition by the mighty god Duit---yeah, I know, I'm a cynic.

Hi Alan,
Nice name..

Since this is a Balinese blade, does it makes a different if Kraton Surakarta accept it or not?

Alam Shah · 15th September 2009, 04:42 AM

Both keris presented here are nicely made. Thanks for sharing.

Personally, the wan doesn't appeal to me in keris context.. As for the aesthetics and shape of the blade, it sort-of 'disturb' the flow and elegance of the blade.. to my eyes anyway.

asomotif · 15th September 2009, 06:34 AM

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recognition by the mighty god Duit---

Mmm..

In dutch language, "duit" is an old word for "coin"
Was the maker going for the money

Nice keris btw.

A. G. Maisey · 15th September 2009, 09:04 AM

Alam Shah, about half the time I'm dead serious, the other half is split between being facetious and being more or less relaxed.

Of course it makes no difference if Surakarta accepts it or not, and in all honesty it makes no difference if any of the pura in Bali accept it or not. It is a modern piece of very nice art work.In fact both blades are.

What is important is if the current generation of keris fanciers, collectors and wearers accept it or not. Its not traditional, and I can see your point Alam Shah when you say it disturbs the flow, but personally I rather like the motif, execution, and idea.

What annoys me with any motif used in a keris blade is if it is poorly executed. I'm not at all adverse to new ideas. The keris has changed throughout its existence, and this is a strength that has allowed it to survive.But I detest ugliness.

"Duit" has come into Indonesian as one of the words for money.

15th September 2009, 04:42 AM	#2
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Both keris presented here are nicely made. Thanks for sharing. Personally, the wan doesn't appeal to me in keris context.. As for the aesthetics and shape of the blade, it sort-of 'disturb' the flow and elegance of the blade.. to my eyes anyway. Last edited by Alam Shah; 15th September 2009 at 07:02 AM.

15th September 2009, 09:04 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,056	Alam Shah, about half the time I'm dead serious, the other half is split between being facetious and being more or less relaxed. Of course it makes no difference if Surakarta accepts it or not, and in all honesty it makes no difference if any of the pura in Bali accept it or not. It is a modern piece of very nice art work.In fact both blades are. What is important is if the current generation of keris fanciers, collectors and wearers accept it or not. Its not traditional, and I can see your point Alam Shah when you say it disturbs the flow, but personally I rather like the motif, execution, and idea. What annoys me with any motif used in a keris blade is if it is poorly executed. I'm not at all adverse to new ideas. The keris has changed throughout its existence, and this is a strength that has allowed it to survive.But I detest ugliness. "Duit" has come into Indonesian as one of the words for money.