Tangguh/ keris blade age indexing thread

Gustav · 19th August 2009, 12:01 PM

I have also a great interest in indexing the age of the blade, as every man, interested in antiquities or simple history. But I also understand, when we are handling a part of rich and refined culture, and this part belongs to the heart of this culture, the most important things are not to tell without going into a teacher-pupil relation, which has the same intensity as a relation within the family.
This relation is an absolute necessity, but living in the age of google and wikipedia we forgot it more and more.

In Java, the gamelan music declines slowly, since the teaching follows the western conservatoire methods, using the written notation as source. The musicians in Java have had a notation system, probably since 19 centhury, but the importance of it was very small, since all teaching was a mouth (or instrument) to ear information.

It is not possible to understand a culture, handling it in a way, inadequate for this culture. Otherwise it is simply colonialism, which is, of course an important part of the Western culture.

Rick · 19th August 2009, 05:10 PM

Hi Gustav,

I think Alan summed it up quite well in his last post on the Warangan thread .

(pg 3 bottom)

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...?t=4598&page=3

Gustav · 19th August 2009, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Hi Gustav,

I think Alan summed it up quite well in his last post on the Warangan thread .

(pg 3 bottom)

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...?t=4598&page=3

Sorry, I missed it. Absolutely substantial.

19th August 2009, 12:01 PM	#1
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,280	I have also a great interest in indexing the age of the blade, as every man, interested in antiquities or simple history. But I also understand, when we are handling a part of rich and refined culture, and this part belongs to the heart of this culture, the most important things are not to tell without going into a teacher-pupil relation, which has the same intensity as a relation within the family. This relation is an absolute necessity, but living in the age of google and wikipedia we forgot it more and more. In Java, the gamelan music declines slowly, since the teaching follows the western conservatoire methods, using the written notation as source. The musicians in Java have had a notation system, probably since 19 centhury, but the importance of it was very small, since all teaching was a mouth (or instrument) to ear information. It is not possible to understand a culture, handling it in a way, inadequate for this culture. Otherwise it is simply colonialism, which is, of course an important part of the Western culture.

19th August 2009, 05:10 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Hi Gustav, I think Alan summed it up quite well in his last post on the Warangan thread . (pg 3 bottom) http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...?t=4598&page=3