Photos from museum of artillery

Spiridonov · 12th August 2009, 02:39 PM

I know all obout this crossbow. I will answear later. Its a newmaked thing

Matchlock · 12th August 2009, 03:44 PM

That's very interesting indeed, Alexander!

Best,
Michael

M ELEY · 15th August 2009, 05:58 AM

I likewise don't want to hijack this great thread, but I was just wondering if anyone has any pics of any swivel guns/deck guns? Spiridonov's pics have one in the case that caught my eye (any chance for a closer pic of that one?). Just asking-

Mark

fernando · 15th August 2009, 05:45 PM

Hi Mark,
I wish i had myself a swivel/deck gun to picture and post it here

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Attached are perspective pictures of the replica mounted on a 1500's discoveries nau (ship), that was built in a ship yard close from my place.
By the time of Portuguese King Dom Manuel I, a great impeller of naval weaponry, these guns were called berços (cradles), also it appears that this term originated elsewhere.
Also attached is a real one, possibly from the XII century, kept at the Oporto military museum.

Fernando

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fernando · 15th August 2009, 05:48 PM

The real thing

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M ELEY · 16th August 2009, 04:59 AM

Absolutely fantastic, Fernando. Thank you! I've become quite fascinated with swivels in their defense of ships. I had never heard the term "bercos" (cradles) before. Now I have more to research- Thanks. Anyone else with rail gun pics?
P.S. Fernando, you lucky dog! From those pics, you must live in a beautiful port city. Green with envy...

fernando · 17th August 2009, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M ELEY

... P.S. Fernando, you lucky dog! From those pics, you must live in a beautiful port city. Green with envy...

When i mentioned close from my place i meant close from my home town . That is, the ship was built in the neighbour town, which is actualy 'glued' to mine.
Both are fishing ports, mine being nowadays a larger one. But in the town where this ship was made, there is much more naval construction history; in fact they used to build caravels there, in the discoveries period.
Tey coordinates Lat: 41.3728, Lon: -8.7719 through Google and you will see my town harbour.
Fernando

Dmitry · 16th August 2009, 09:21 PM

Judging by the breeches of these naval swivel guns, gases blew out of them like there's no tomorrow.

M ELEY · 17th August 2009, 05:03 AM

True, the breech-loading types might have lost some of their...um...gas

, but as a close-range weapon meant to sweep the enemies decks, they didn't necessarily need much range. That would have strictly been left up to the larger cannon.

15th August 2009, 05:45 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Hi Mark, I wish i had myself a swivel/deck gun to picture and post it here . Attached are perspective pictures of the replica mounted on a 1500's discoveries nau (ship), that was built in a ship yard close from my place. By the time of Portuguese King Dom Manuel I, a great impeller of naval weaponry, these guns were called berços (cradles), also it appears that this term originated elsewhere. Also attached is a real one, possibly from the XII century, kept at the Oporto military museum. Fernando . Attached Images

15th August 2009, 05:48 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	The real thing . Attached Images

12th August 2009, 02:39 PM	#1
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	I know all obout this crossbow. I will answear later. Its a newmaked thing

12th August 2009, 03:44 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	That's very interesting indeed, Alexander! Best, Michael

15th August 2009, 05:58 AM	#3
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,206	I likewise don't want to hijack this great thread, but I was just wondering if anyone has any pics of any swivel guns/deck guns? Spiridonov's pics have one in the case that caught my eye (any chance for a closer pic of that one?). Just asking- Mark

16th August 2009, 04:59 AM	#6
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,206	Absolutely fantastic, Fernando. Thank you! I've become quite fascinated with swivels in their defense of ships. I had never heard the term "bercos" (cradles) before. Now I have more to research- Thanks. Anyone else with rail gun pics? P.S. Fernando, you lucky dog! From those pics, you must live in a beautiful port city. Green with envy...

16th August 2009, 09:21 PM	#8
Dmitry Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 607	Judging by the breeches of these naval swivel guns, gases blew out of them like there's no tomorrow.

17th August 2009, 05:03 AM	#9
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,206	True, the breech-loading types might have lost some of their...um...gas , but as a close-range weapon meant to sweep the enemies decks, they didn't necessarily need much range. That would have strictly been left up to the larger cannon.