Photos from museum of Tabor. Czechia

Matchlock · 29th July 2009, 02:18 PM

Hi Spiridonov,

Our posts have crossed each other.

You may have read by now that the bronze barrel on the bottom photo was made as early as ca. 1450-60.

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 29th July 2009, 02:51 PM

I had remember that i had seen that barrel at german book of my friend. Its seems to be with cover. Is the 73,8 cm total lengh or barrel channal length?

Matchlock · 29th July 2009, 03:19 PM

You are right, Spiridonov,

I attach two detailed pictures which I took of that gun when it was on display at the Military Museum in Prague in 1995; you can see that the rectanguar pan around the touch hole on the top flat is a later repair, a working addition of ca. 1500, the once swiveling cover is missing.

The length of 73.8 cm must be the total length as the length of the bore is hardly ever measured.

The other barrel seen above the bronze gun seems to be somewhat earlier at first sight, ca. 1440-50, but the touch hole is already on the right side - maybe this, too, was a later working alteration and the original touch hole on the top side was nailed and shut as has been the case with many barrels. This is mere speculation, though.

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 30th July 2009, 06:20 AM

Hi, Michael! Thaks for nice phtos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

you can see that the rectanguar pan around the touch hole on the top flat is a later repair, a working addition of ca. 1500

Why did you thinking that it is a later repair?

Matchlock · 30th July 2009, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiridonov

Why did you thinking that it is a later repair?

Hi Spridonov,

Simply because, as I stated, pans and covers were not extant before ca. 1500. As this barrel is stylistically clearly earlier than 1500, the pan must be a later addition. If you look closely at the lower brim of the pan you will see traces of soldering.

Best,
Michael

Spiridonov · 30th July 2009, 02:02 PM

Yes, you are right. I see that

Spiridonov · 30th July 2009, 02:10 PM

Where was stored a ramrod using the weapon of this kind?
It could be in the barrel channel on a march but during time when the barrel has been charged it it was impossible.

29th July 2009, 02:51 PM	#2
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	I had remember that i had seen that barrel at german book of my friend. Its seems to be with cover. Is the 73,8 cm total lengh or barrel channal length? Attached Images

29th July 2009, 03:19 PM	#3
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	You are right, Spiridonov, I attach two detailed pictures which I took of that gun when it was on display at the Military Museum in Prague in 1995; you can see that the rectanguar pan around the touch hole on the top flat is a later repair, a working addition of ca. 1500, the once swiveling cover is missing. The length of 73.8 cm must be the total length as the length of the bore is hardly ever measured. The other barrel seen above the bronze gun seems to be somewhat earlier at first sight, ca. 1440-50, but the touch hole is already on the right side - maybe this, too, was a later working alteration and the original touch hole on the top side was nailed and shut as has been the case with many barrels. This is mere speculation, though. Best, Michael Attached Images

29th July 2009, 02:18 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Spiridonov, Our posts have crossed each other. You may have read by now that the bronze barrel on the bottom photo was made as early as ca. 1450-60. Best, Michael

30th July 2009, 02:02 PM	#6
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Yes, you are right. I see that

30th July 2009, 02:10 PM	#7
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Where was stored a ramrod using the weapon of this kind? It could be in the barrel channel on a march but during time when the barrel has been charged it it was impossible.