Kebo Lajer with Kul buntet - opinions?

kai · 26th June 2009, 01:21 AM

Hello Erik,

I also like the scabbard a lot.

Any pics of the other side as well as of the whole blade?

Regards,
Kai

erikscollectables · 28th June 2009, 04:59 PM

Here is another photo of the keris.
I saw it yesterday in real life and in my opinion it is a remarkable piece!
The scabbard is really really beautiful.
I think it is very old but kept very well and polished superbly.

The kul buntet part has small pieces of gold in it that seem to be part of the forging of the keris....

Regards, Erik

Sajen · 28th June 2009, 05:10 PM

Hello Erik,

a very nice keris indeed. That the gold pieces a part of the foring process I can't believe really, think about the forging temperature.

sajen

David · 28th June 2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Erik,

a very nice keris indeed. That the gold pieces a part of the foring process I can't believe really, think about the forging temperature.

sajen

I would have to agree there. The gold was probably added after forging. Nice blade and sheath. I happen to like kebo keris very much and have a few of them. I also have a couple with pamor kul buntet which seems to occur with some regularity with this dhapur.
I would say that if the sheath is old it is not that it has been well kept, but rather that it has been re-finished.

erikscollectables · 28th June 2009, 07:28 PM

Well I can imagine the gold melt away during the actual forging.
On the other hand the gold specs do not look like they have been added afterwards. No idea how this works.

Regards, Erik

Jonno · 14th July 2009, 11:29 AM

Can anyone tell me the meaning of the small gold dots in lower part?

Best regards,
John

David · 14th July 2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonno

Can anyone tell me the meaning of the small gold dots in lower part?

Best regards,
John

Welcome to the forum John. I think Sajen is probably correct. The gold dots probably do not have any meaning on their own, they are probably just residual of gold work that was once on the blade.

Sajen · 14th July 2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by erikscollectables

Well I can imagine the gold melt away during the actual forging.
On the other hand the gold specs do not look like they have been added afterwards. No idea how this works.

Regards, Erik

Hello Erik,

one reason why there are golden spots at the blade may be that this keris have had gold somewhere originally.
I have a Sumatra keris which have had a gold covering in up from the ganja and also in the front from ganja and at the gandik. When I get this keris the blade also have had some gold spots at the blade. After a warangan you can see only a small piece of gold between ganja and blade in the gandik part. This gold spots maybe have been there from opened gold film and abrasive wear from extraction the blade from sheat. I try to take a picture from this.

sajen

ganjawulung · 14th July 2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by David

I would say that if the sheath is old it is not that it has been well kept, but rather that it has been re-finished.

The same opinion with you, David. But at least, the warangka's wood is of good "trembalo" wood, with good chatoyancy too in gandar part...

GANJAWULUNG

28th June 2009, 04:59 PM	#2
erikscollectables Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 318	another photo Here is another photo of the keris. I saw it yesterday in real life and in my opinion it is a remarkable piece! The scabbard is really really beautiful. I think it is very old but kept very well and polished superbly. The kul buntet part has small pieces of gold in it that seem to be part of the forging of the keris.... Regards, Erik Attached Images

26th June 2009, 01:21 AM	#1
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Erik, I also like the scabbard a lot. Any pics of the other side as well as of the whole blade? Regards, Kai

28th June 2009, 05:10 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,272	Hello Erik, a very nice keris indeed. That the gold pieces a part of the foring process I can't believe really, think about the forging temperature. sajen

28th June 2009, 07:28 PM	#5
erikscollectables Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 318	Well I can imagine the gold melt away during the actual forging. On the other hand the gold specs do not look like they have been added afterwards. No idea how this works. Regards, Erik

14th July 2009, 11:29 AM	#6
Jonno Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 51	Can anyone tell me the meaning of the small gold dots in lower part? Best regards, John