More info regarding this Georgian Kindjal

Rivkin · 25th June 2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Hi Rivkin,
Nice to see you posting! Its been a long, long time!!! Your insight into things Caucasian has been missed around here, and much appreciated here on this interesting example.

All the best,
Jim

Long time James; I would much rather write the original poster a private message but since he disabled both P.Ms and emails I have no other way of contacting him; as before I have no reason to participate in any forum discussions, sorry.
It is a relatively nice piece though. Alan does not believe in existance of Circassian weapons per se.

Jim McDougall · 25th June 2009, 09:41 PM

No problem Rivkin. Since he is a new member, his email and PM status is not yet activated. Still good to see you posting even if you decline participating in discussions. Just wanted to note that your contributions were in my opinion always well placed and informative, I'm sorry you are reluctant to post here as well.

Wishing you all the best,
Jim

Hatumesh · 25th June 2009, 10:39 PM

Thanks for all the information from all you people!
I have not disabled my PM or email. Maybe it's because I'm new here.
Is it customary to just write my email address here...?
Thanks again.

Rivkin · 26th June 2009, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatumesh

Thanks for all the information from all you people!
I have not disabled my PM or email. Maybe it's because I'm new here.
Is it customary to just write my email address here...?
Thanks again.

Sure, mine is rivkin@rkmag.com

Hatumesh · 27th June 2009, 09:10 PM

Hi there all,
I have been offered a large sum of money for this Kindjal and I don't know if it is a reasonable price. Is it customary to specify the sum here in this forum, for you people to say if it's ok?
Thanks.

TVV · 27th June 2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatumesh

Hi there all,
Is it customary to specify the sum here in this forum, for you people to say if it's ok?

It's not OK.

Hatumesh · 27th June 2009, 09:30 PM

OK - thanks for the short and very clear response.
Can anyone here recommend a forum where I can ask such questions?

David · 27th June 2009, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatumesh

Hi there all,
I have been offered a large sum of money for this Kindjal and I don't know if it is a reasonable price. Is it customary to specify the sum here in this forum, for you people to say if it's ok?
Thanks.

This is definitely NOT the place to discuss purchases. I suggest that if you truly do want to sell this item that you post it in our swap forum where you may indeed receive even more and perhaps even larger offers.

Value of items is never discussed on the forum itself. It is strictly against the rules. I suggest that you read the rules that are posted in the "sticky" threads section for your further edification. .

Jim McDougall · 28th June 2009, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatumesh

Hi there all,
I have been offered a large sum of money for this Kindjal and I don't know if it is a reasonable price. Is it customary to specify the sum here in this forum, for you people to say if it's ok?
Thanks.

Hi Hatumesh,
Id like to say welcome to our forum, and please dont misunderstand the heightened reaction to your question about your kindjhal. As has been noted, forums are primarily for discussion of weapons and thier history, but buying and selling is restricted to select areas for that purpose alone.

Since you are new, you may not be aware of the private message function, found at the top of the screen on right side under the welcome and your name. Here you can contact members privately and discuss these matters.

Please note our swap forum also, which is intended for buying and selling.

All best regards,
Jim

Hatumesh · 28th June 2009, 09:06 AM

Thank you, Jim, for the kind and reassuring words!
Please let me know if the following 2 questions are appropriate here:

1. I now understand that even by extensive reading of previous entries in this and other forums - one can not expect to become an expert in antique edged weapons. But even once you are an expert, what are the comments about the origin of my Kindjal based on? On the marks and engravings? On the decorations? On the general look of the dagger (Is it considered a Dagger, a knife or a short sword)? I was rather amazed at remarks arguing that the origin is not A but B, where A and B are so very close on the map...

2. This Kindjal (and some of my other items too) has more then mere patina. The pitting is deep in places. I'm still looking for ideas and guidelines (simple and inexpensive) as to how to best work on it.

And as to question of appraising and selling the Kindjal - I will rush to next-door-forum and open an entry there!

Thanks a lot again to all the incredibly informative responses.

Andrew · 28th June 2009, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rivkin

Long time James; I would much rather write the original poster a private message but since he disabled both P.Ms and emails I have no other way of contacting him; as before I have no reason to participate in any forum discussions, sorry.
It is a relatively nice piece though. Alan does not believe in existance of Circassian weapons per se.

Since you "have no reason to participate in any forum discussions" would you like me to disable your account? You can lurk without the benefit of posting or PM privileges just fine.

25th June 2009, 10:39 PM	#3
Hatumesh Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tel-Aviv, Israel Posts: 24	Thanks to all... Thanks for all the information from all you people! I have not disabled my PM or email. Maybe it's because I'm new here. Is it customary to just write my email address here...? Thanks again.

27th June 2009, 09:10 PM	#5
Hatumesh Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tel-Aviv, Israel Posts: 24	Q: an offer I should refuse...? Hi there all, I have been offered a large sum of money for this Kindjal and I don't know if it is a reasonable price. Is it customary to specify the sum here in this forum, for you people to say if it's ok? Thanks.

25th June 2009, 09:41 PM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,281	No problem Rivkin. Since he is a new member, his email and PM status is not yet activated. Still good to see you posting even if you decline participating in discussions. Just wanted to note that your contributions were in my opinion always well placed and informative, I'm sorry you are reluctant to post here as well. Wishing you all the best, Jim

27th June 2009, 09:30 PM	#7
Hatumesh Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tel-Aviv, Israel Posts: 24	OK - thanks for the short and very clear response. Can anyone here recommend a forum where I can ask such questions?

28th June 2009, 09:06 AM	#10
Hatumesh Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tel-Aviv, Israel Posts: 24	Thank you, Jim, for the kind and reassuring words! Please let me know if the following 2 questions are appropriate here: 1. I now understand that even by extensive reading of previous entries in this and other forums - one can not expect to become an expert in antique edged weapons. But even once you are an expert, what are the comments about the origin of my Kindjal based on? On the marks and engravings? On the decorations? On the general look of the dagger (Is it considered a Dagger, a knife or a short sword)? I was rather amazed at remarks arguing that the origin is not A but B, where A and B are so very close on the map... 2. This Kindjal (and some of my other items too) has more then mere patina. The pitting is deep in places. I'm still looking for ideas and guidelines (simple and inexpensive) as to how to best work on it. And as to question of appraising and selling the Kindjal - I will rush to next-door-forum and open an entry there! Thanks a lot again to all the incredibly informative responses.