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Old 12th June 2009, 07:57 AM   #1
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A stupid question perhaps, but what is the Jawa keris in kelengan (black iron)to represent; being without pamor ?

Anything, any aspect at all ?
Hullo Rick,

To many Javanese, Keris Kelengan enables the owner to think and act more wisely. BUT ... a definite NO-NO for a groom... as it tends to make it more difficult for him to beget progeny.

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Old 12th June 2009, 08:21 AM   #2
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Hello

What are the attributes of Beras Wutah? This pamor seems to be very common; several of my keris do have it. Actually, it`s one of my favourite
pamors!

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Old 12th June 2009, 09:05 AM   #3
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A quick flick through Tammens vol.II shows that the first group of motifs listed possess qualities that are useful to a warrior, the second group listed are identified as specifically for warriors.

Bear in mind that opinions on the tuah of a pamor change from place to place, and often from person to person. Use a different source and you will find variation from this list.

class 1.
anda agung

banaspati

manggoda

makuta mesir

pandita bala pandita

tundung mungsuh


class 2.
naga serum

panah

pantolan

ron pakis

sada saler

tundung peksi


Wos wutah ( beras wutah) is an absolutely positive pamor motif. Good for everything --- safety, peace, seeking good fortune, social intercourse, and protection against insufficiency --- and it is suitable to everybody. You can't go wrong with wos wutah.
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Nice to know, Alan, as I really like beras wutah/wos wutah!

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Old 12th June 2009, 09:20 AM   #5
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What are the attributes of Beras Wutah? This pamor seems to be very common; several of my keris do have it. Actually, it`s one of my favourite
pamors!

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Heinz
beras wutah/wos wutah...pamor of prosperity. suitable for every one.
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Old 12th June 2009, 03:18 PM   #6
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Hullo Rick,

To many Javanese, Keris Kelengan enables the owner to think and act more wisely. BUT ... a definite NO-NO for a groom... as it tends to make it more difficult for him to beget progeny.

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Thank you Amuk ,
I had thought it was for wisdom , but not sure .

Fortunately I have already taken care of the other part .
He's 27 yrs old .

Didn't have any kelengan then .. whew !!

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