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VANDOO · 4th June 2009, 03:05 PM

IT IS AS NICE A ONE AS I HAVE EVER SEEN. THESE APPEAR TO BE MORE OF A SHORT SWORD THAN A KNIFE THIS ONE IS 21 &3/4 INCH LONG WHICH IS THE APPROXIMATE SIZE OF SEVERAL I HAVE SEEN, HAS ANYONE NEVER SEEN A 10 TO 8 INCH ONE?. I AM ASSUMING THE BLADE AND POMMEL ARE MADE FROM ONE CONTINOUS PIECE OF METAL. REMARKABLE WORKMANSHIP.!!
THANKS FOR POSTING THIS ONE LEE

I WOULDN'T HAVE WANTED TO HAVE MISSED SEEING IT.

Jim McDougall · 4th June 2009, 04:48 PM

Nice

Tim Simmons · 4th June 2009, 05:33 PM

Just wonderful. You do not just suddenly start making things like this. Clearly this must have been made before 1830. Why do we not have better historic information about when this type of work started? Did these people steal iron from Cook's ship too

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David · 4th June 2009, 07:50 PM

Here is a helpful link for this discussion as this is not the first time we have talked about such blades here. Also follow the link i posted on this page and there is a lot of good info and photos: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=Tlingit

Tim Simmons · 4th June 2009, 08:18 PM

It so happens that the area under disscusion is rich in iron ore. Could be another one of those arguements like the use of brass in Africa. Poor modern historical documentation, limited archeaology coupled with a high minded and dissmisive period. These late 19th and early 20th century thoughts are increasingly being questioned. Todays research it undertaken with less baggage. I am not saying anything but it is possible

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asomotif · 4th June 2009, 09:09 PM

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but in a museum where everyone can see it?

I wonder if museums would be willing to spend such an amount on one knife ?

Nice knife btw

David · 4th June 2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

I wonder if museums would be willing to spend such an amount on one knife ?

Nice knife btw

I think that would depend on which museum.

Don't get me wrong. I am not, in general, against personal ownership of cultural items. But this is not an everyman's dagger, or even a wealthy man's dagger. Daggers like these are akin in my mind to the royal regalia of one of the Javanese kraton. They have deep historical and cultural importance and significance.

4th June 2009, 05:33 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	Just wonderful. You do not just suddenly start making things like this. Clearly this must have been made before 1830. Why do we not have better historic information about when this type of work started? Did these people steal iron from Cook's ship too . Last edited by Tim Simmons; 4th June 2009 at 05:52 PM.

4th June 2009, 03:05 PM	#1
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	IT IS AS NICE A ONE AS I HAVE EVER SEEN. THESE APPEAR TO BE MORE OF A SHORT SWORD THAN A KNIFE THIS ONE IS 21 &3/4 INCH LONG WHICH IS THE APPROXIMATE SIZE OF SEVERAL I HAVE SEEN, HAS ANYONE NEVER SEEN A 10 TO 8 INCH ONE?. I AM ASSUMING THE BLADE AND POMMEL ARE MADE FROM ONE CONTINOUS PIECE OF METAL. REMARKABLE WORKMANSHIP.!! THANKS FOR POSTING THIS ONE LEE I WOULDN'T HAVE WANTED TO HAVE MISSED SEEING IT.

4th June 2009, 04:48 PM	#2
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,459	Nice

4th June 2009, 07:50 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,229	Here is a helpful link for this discussion as this is not the first time we have talked about such blades here. Also follow the link i posted on this page and there is a lot of good info and photos: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=Tlingit

4th June 2009, 08:18 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,875	It so happens that the area under disscusion is rich in iron ore. Could be another one of those arguements like the use of brass in Africa. Poor modern historical documentation, limited archeaology coupled with a high minded and dissmisive period. These late 19th and early 20th century thoughts are increasingly being questioned. Todays research it undertaken with less baggage. I am not saying anything but it is possible .