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15th May 2009, 06:36 PM
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Yes, are there copies or reprints of this work acquirable, Michael ?
Suddenly you will be responsible for the da Vinci's family having to pay copyright fees to Flavius Vegetius Renatus's heirs  .Fernando Oh, he was a veterinarian  .
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15th May 2009, 06:53 PM
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Here, Emanuel.
Can you handle these ? http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/...ges/index.html Fernando |
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15th May 2009, 07:10 PM
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May i (again), Michael ?
 Very interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publius...getius_Renatus Fernando Last edited by fernando; 15th May 2009 at 10:03 PM. |
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15th May 2009, 08:44 PM
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 The only comment I can find to make about the latest drawings is that there must have been a good supply of a VERY strong smoking weed available at the time! My brain won't cope with trying to sort this lot out, but a most interesting insight into the medieval mind!
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15th May 2009, 09:20 PM
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Many thanks Fernando! I had missed Michael's citation.
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16th May 2009, 01:40 AM
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16th May 2009, 05:22 AM
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Thanks for the link Fernando. That makes it plain that Flavius Vegetius Renatus was not the author of these illustrations.
I have to agree with Richard. This looks like a mix of doodles and semi-practical devices. I don't think drugs were involved at all. Just wish I knew what kind of text went with these pictures. F |
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16th May 2009, 02:08 PM
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Browsing on this Roman writer (and veterinary ) on the (wonderful) Internet, one may learn that he was such a preponderant guy for his time and later; some of his maxims are still quoted nowadays.It's quite possible that a later guy (a 1511 anonimous?) decided to illustrate the war machinery described (or implicit) in Flavius writings on war tatics (Epitoma rei militaris), whether with a fantasized or even satirized intention, or simply with a naíve knowledge of such devices, releasing the leash of his imagination. But probably Michael knows how to solve the riddle and his hiding behind the door, whatching ud wonderind and wandering  .Fernando |
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17th May 2009, 10:07 PM
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... in a gothic font . Perhaps Michael has an idea of what it is about.Quote:
If anybody wants a copy and has dificulties downloading it, just tell; i will email one to him. Fernando. |
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17th May 2009, 07:10 PM
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Hi Fernando, Believe me, I have been searching for reprints ever since I got my hands on the first original book in the Munich State Library where these scans are taken from. I could not find any reprints. Apart from that, Vegetius' texts have been reprinted throughout the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries in numerous variations, many of which do not contain any illustrations at all. I have found only one other copy printed in Paris in 1534 or 1536 which is profusely illustrated including early firearms. Let's be patient though. The big libraries keep scanning more and more books from their hidden treasures and publishing them on the web. Within a few years our knowledge will have been immeasurably enriched!  Best, Michael |
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