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Old 10th May 2009, 12:36 AM   #1
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Hullo Sajen,

Yup, #3240. A good Lot.
In another thread, I mentioned that Parang/Mandau/Kalimantan/Borneo wasn't my area of 'expertise'.
But, since you asked, I'd start with Bahau.

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Old 10th May 2009, 01:20 AM   #2
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Kayan / Kenyah IMHO

Bahau I would expect to be more stylistic / more bold in style ?

(very) Nice mandau by the way. reminds me to take a look on Hermann's Historica's auctions again.
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Old 10th May 2009, 01:26 AM   #3
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Kayan / Kenyah IMHO

Bahau I would expect to be more stylistic / more bold in style ?

(very) Nice mandau by the way. reminds me to take a look on Hermann's Historica's auctions again.

Thank's Willem, have a nice weekend.
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Old 10th May 2009, 01:54 AM   #4
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Hullo Willem,

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Kayan / Kenyah IMHO

Bahau I would expect to be more stylistic / more bold in style ?.....
I included those two tribes under Bahau (as per Brittanica). As I don't know of Dr. J.B. Anthony (a local Dayak publicist/leader) disputing this, I accepted it in good faith. Who am I to debate it?

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Old 14th May 2009, 12:22 PM   #5
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I included those two tribes under Bahau (as per Brittanica).
This is new to me. This is the first time that I hear of Kayan / Kenyah being part of Bahau.

If you check Hornbill and Dragon by Bernard Sellato, he has a map with tribes in which kayan / kenyah is a pretty large group, and part of this group are Bahau and Modang tribes.

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Old 14th May 2009, 05:44 PM   #6
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This is new to me. This is the first time that I hear of Kayan / Kenyah being part of Bahau.

If you check Hornbill and Dragon by Bernard Sellato, he has a map with tribes in which kayan / kenyah is a pretty large group, and part of this group are Bahau and Modang tribes.

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Hi Willem,
so you would guess that it is a Kenyah or Kayan Mandau?

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Old 14th May 2009, 10:46 PM   #7
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Uhhhhh..... Let's say kayan, because it looks like a hilt that Mjoberg describes as Kayan in his book "Borneo"

I am not sure if you could either pinpoint it on kenyah or Kayan as these tribes are very close to each other, and that is also a guess.

But it is a very nice example and a very good start for a mandau collection
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Uhhhhh..... Let's say kayan, because it looks like a hilt that Mjoberg describes as Kayan in his book "Borneo"

I am not sure if you could either pinpoint it on kenyah or Kayan as these tribes are very close to each other, and that is also a guess.

But it is a very nice example and a very good start for a mandau collection
Thank you Willem. This is already the second one I have. The other one complete with sheat and belt, only the piso raut is missing. Wooden handle and also very nice blade.
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