Mandau for comment

Amuk Murugul · 10th May 2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Amuk,
I think you speak about No. 3240. This one also catch my eyes!

Do you have any suggestion from which tribe this mandau?

sajen

Hullo Sajen,

Yup, #3240. A good Lot.
In another thread, I mentioned that Parang/Mandau/Kalimantan/Borneo wasn't my area of 'expertise'.
But, since you asked, I'd start with Bahau.

Best,

Sajen · 10th May 2009, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

Hullo Sajen,

Yup, #3240. A good Lot.
In another thread, I mentioned that Parang/Mandau/Kalimantan/Borneo wasn't my area of 'expertise'.
But, since you asked, I'd start with Bahau.

Best,

Thank's!

asomotif · 10th May 2009, 02:20 AM

Kayan / Kenyah IMHO

Bahau I would expect to be more stylistic / more bold in style ?

(very) Nice mandau by the way. reminds me to take a look on Hermann's Historica's auctions again.

Sajen · 10th May 2009, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

Kayan / Kenyah IMHO

Bahau I would expect to be more stylistic / more bold in style ?

(very) Nice mandau by the way. reminds me to take a look on Hermann's Historica's auctions again.

Thank's Willem, have a nice weekend.
sajen

Amuk Murugul · 10th May 2009, 02:54 AM

Hullo Willem,

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

Kayan / Kenyah IMHO

Bahau I would expect to be more stylistic / more bold in style ?.....

I included those two tribes under Bahau (as per Brittanica). As I don't know of Dr. J.B. Anthony (a local Dayak publicist/leader) disputing this, I accepted it in good faith. Who am I to debate it?

Best,

asomotif · 14th May 2009, 01:22 PM

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I included those two tribes under Bahau (as per Brittanica).

This is new to me. This is the first time that I hear of Kayan / Kenyah being part of Bahau.

If you check Hornbill and Dragon by Bernard Sellato, he has a map with tribes in which kayan / kenyah is a pretty large group, and part of this group are Bahau and Modang tribes.

Best regards,
Willem

Sajen · 14th May 2009, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asomotif

This is new to me. This is the first time that I hear of Kayan / Kenyah being part of Bahau.

If you check Hornbill and Dragon by Bernard Sellato, he has a map with tribes in which kayan / kenyah is a pretty large group, and part of this group are Bahau and Modang tribes.

Best regards,
Willem

Hi Willem,
so you would guess that it is a Kenyah or Kayan Mandau?

Best regards,
Detlef

asomotif · 14th May 2009, 11:46 PM

Uhhhhh.....

Let's say kayan, because it looks like a hilt that Mjoberg describes as Kayan in his book "Borneo"

I am not sure if you could either pinpoint it on kenyah or Kayan as these tribes are very close to each other, and that is also a guess.

But it is a very nice example and a very good start for a mandau collection

10th May 2009, 02:20 AM	#3
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,237	Kayan / Kenyah IMHO Bahau I would expect to be more stylistic / more bold in style ? (very) Nice mandau by the way. reminds me to take a look on Hermann's Historica's auctions again.

14th May 2009, 11:46 PM	#8
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,237	Uhhhhh..... Let's say kayan, because it looks like a hilt that Mjoberg describes as Kayan in his book "Borneo" I am not sure if you could either pinpoint it on kenyah or Kayan as these tribes are very close to each other, and that is also a guess. But it is a very nice example and a very good start for a mandau collection