Ron Gendhuru

Marcokeris · 6th May 2009, 08:27 AM

Thanks all for appreciations.
Ferrylaki you are right. Pamor seems a little to Kupu Tarung . (About kupu tarung : in my experience is very difficult to find it....from some years i'm looking one opamor like this....but nothing good!

......i remember Ganjawulung has a very nice one

)

ferrylaki · 6th May 2009, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcokeris

Thanks all for appreciations.
Ferrylaki you are right. Pamor seems a little to Kupu Tarung . (About kupu tarung : in my experience is very difficult to find it....from some years i'm looking one opamor like this....but nothing good!

......i remember Ganjawulung has a very nice one

)

it seem we have the same taste on this kupu tarung pamor. I've been wondering if I 'm lucky enough to find a keris with kupu tarung pamor.
It's a hard to find

Marcokeris · 3rd September 2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ferrylaki

it seem we have the same taste on this kupu tarung pamor. I've been wondering if I 'm lucky enough to find a keris with kupu tarung pamor.
It's a hard to find

I have found one: nothing extra...but a good feeling to my soul.

Jean · 4th September 2009, 01:15 PM

Hello Marco,
In my opinion, the pamor of this blade is not Kupu Tarung (see Pamoratlas for instance). I have my own idea (see pictures 11A and 16B in my book) but I leave to you guys to determine which pamor it is...
Cheers
Jean

David · 4th September 2009, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

Hello Marco,
In my opinion, the pamor of this blade is not Kupu Tarung (see Pamoratlas for instance). I have my own idea (see pictures 11A and 16B in my book) but I leave to you guys to determine which pamor it is...
Cheers
Jean

Hi Jean. If it is possible perhaps you could upload those photos for those not fortunate enought to own your book.

Jean · 5th September 2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by David

Hi Jean. If it is possible perhaps you could upload those photos for those not fortunate enought to own your book.

Hi David,
It is a shame but I don't know how to attach pictures

although I tried from the Insert Image icon and accessed to my Images file, could you help me about it? I have recently bought a blade with I think a real Kupu Tarung pamor.
Cheers
Jean

kai · 6th September 2009, 10:42 PM

Hello Jean,

Welcome to the forum!

Did you hit the upload button in the lower right corner after browsing to the respective file(s) to be attached? Actually, it is preferable to upload each pic separately (rather than doing several at once) since this preserves their order. BTW, there is a maximum width (1000 pixels?) and height (1280 pixels) as well as maximum size (200 Kb) constraint for pics.

I've sporadically lost uploaded pics by further working on posts like doing previews, etc. Thus, I prefer to finish the text first, preview it, and, as a last step, upload pics (wait till each upload is complete and then close the pop-up window), verify wether they are shown on the main reply window, and finally hit the submit button...

In case this doesn't help, shoot me an email or PM and I'll try to walk you through the pics posting procedure.

Regards,
Kai

Marcokeris · 5th September 2009, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean

Hello Marco,
In my opinion, the pamor of this blade is not Kupu Tarung (see Pamoratlas for instance). I have my own idea (see pictures 11A and 16B in my book) but I leave to you guys to determine which pamor it is...
Cheers
Jean

Yes Jean
Also in Jawa Keris book there is a nice pic (i think the best detailed) of this pamor.
I remember in the Forum there is a (little

)pic of a blade with this pamor (Ganjawulung) but..i don't remeber where it is.
I think you are right but when the seller told me kupu tarung i really saw inside some butterflies flying one near the other

Jean · 29th September 2009, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcokeris

I have found one: nothing extra...but a good feeling to my soul.

Hello Marco,
This is a keris with a similar pamor in my collection, I have classified it as Ganggeng Kanyut?
Best regards
Jean

Jean · 29th September 2009, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcokeris

Thanks all for appreciations.
Ferrylaki you are right. Pamor seems a little to Kupu Tarung . (About kupu tarung : in my experience is very difficult to find it....from some years i'm looking one opamor like this....but nothing good!

......i remember Ganjawulung has a very nice one

)

Hello gentlemen,
Is this pamor Kupu Tarung?

The blade is part of a keris from Borneo, it needs warangan treatment.
Best regards
Jean

ganjawulung · 4th April 2010, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcokeris

Thanks all for appreciations.
Ferrylaki you are right. Pamor seems a little to Kupu Tarung . (About kupu tarung : in my experience is very difficult to find it....from some years i'm looking one opamor like this....but nothing good!

......i remember Ganjawulung has a very nice one

)

Dear Marco, is it the "kupu tarung" you meant -- almost a year ago?

Marcokeris · 4th April 2010, 04:32 PM

Dear Ganjawulung
YES

!!! This is the keris i remember
A very beautiful pamor ...and a very nice kris and complete sarong

ganjawulung · 4th April 2010, 05:20 PM

Is it? But two years ago, I saw a kupu tarung -- much beautiful than this in Yogyakarta. According to the owner, it was a "kaping piton" (HB VII) kupu tarung, straight blade, with a very neat kupu tarung pamor. I suggested you to took (buy) it, in front of the owner, but you chose to take the "walang sinundukan"... Why?

About one month later, that beautiful kupu tarung was bought by someone from Jakarta -- twice the price the former owner offered to you. Do you remember that beautiful kupu tarung in Yogyakartan branggah warangka?

Any way, your "ron genduru" is attractive too. You may regard the "lar gangsir" leaves inside the ron gendhuru....

GANJAWULUNG

Marcokeris · 4th April 2010, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganjawulung

..... I suggested you to took (buy) it, in front of the owner, but you chose to take the "walang sinundukan"... Why?

GANJAWULUNG

Very easy:because i liked more the other blade.

Naga Sasra · 4th April 2010, 10:00 PM

Dear estemed members,

The thread name on this is Ron Gendhuru, we have however not seen a Ron Genduru pamor in the thread.
In lieu of that I have attached some photos of one of my Solo pieces, reflecting what is normally understood to be the Ron Genduru pamor. This just so members that are not familiar with the pamor can see what it looks like.
Thank You,

David · 4th April 2010, 10:26 PM

Thanks Erik for posting this.
Obviously the original blade has multiple pamor patterns. One seems to be wengkon. What pamor do you think the other one is that resembles Ron Gendhuru?

4th September 2009, 01:15 PM	#4
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Ron Gendhuru Hello Marco, In my opinion, the pamor of this blade is not Kupu Tarung (see Pamoratlas for instance). I have my own idea (see pictures 11A and 16B in my book) but I leave to you guys to determine which pamor it is... Cheers Jean

4th April 2010, 05:20 PM	#13
ganjawulung Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: J a k a r t a Posts: 991	Is it? But two years ago, I saw a kupu tarung -- much beautiful than this in Yogyakarta. According to the owner, it was a "kaping piton" (HB VII) kupu tarung, straight blade, with a very neat kupu tarung pamor. I suggested you to took (buy) it, in front of the owner, but you chose to take the "walang sinundukan"... Why? About one month later, that beautiful kupu tarung was bought by someone from Jakarta -- twice the price the former owner offered to you. Do you remember that beautiful kupu tarung in Yogyakartan branggah warangka? Any way, your "ron genduru" is attractive too. You may regard the "lar gangsir" leaves inside the ron gendhuru.... GANJAWULUNG Attached Images

4th April 2010, 10:00 PM	#15
Naga Sasra Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Boca Raton, Florida, USA Posts: 108	Dear estemed members, The thread name on this is Ron Gendhuru, we have however not seen a Ron Genduru pamor in the thread. In lieu of that I have attached some photos of one of my Solo pieces, reflecting what is normally understood to be the Ron Genduru pamor. This just so members that are not familiar with the pamor can see what it looks like. Thank You, Attached Images

6th May 2009, 08:27 AM	#1
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Thanks all for appreciations. Ferrylaki you are right. Pamor seems a little to Kupu Tarung . (About kupu tarung : in my experience is very difficult to find it....from some years i'm looking one opamor like this....but nothing good! ......i remember Ganjawulung has a very nice one )

6th September 2009, 10:42 PM	#7
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Jean, Welcome to the forum! Did you hit the upload button in the lower right corner after browsing to the respective file(s) to be attached? Actually, it is preferable to upload each pic separately (rather than doing several at once) since this preserves their order. BTW, there is a maximum width (1000 pixels?) and height (1280 pixels) as well as maximum size (200 Kb) constraint for pics. I've sporadically lost uploaded pics by further working on posts like doing previews, etc. Thus, I prefer to finish the text first, preview it, and, as a last step, upload pics (wait till each upload is complete and then close the pop-up window), verify wether they are shown on the main reply window, and finally hit the submit button... In case this doesn't help, shoot me an email or PM and I'll try to walk you through the pics posting procedure. Regards, Kai

4th April 2010, 04:32 PM	#12
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Dear Ganjawulung YES !!! This is the keris i remember A very beautiful pamor ...and a very nice kris and complete sarong

4th April 2010, 10:26 PM	#16
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Thanks Erik for posting this. Obviously the original blade has multiple pamor patterns. One seems to be wengkon. What pamor do you think the other one is that resembles Ron Gendhuru?