Kaskara - help with translation please?

Jeff D · 2nd May 2009, 01:20 AM

Hi Stephen,

No I got this one quite a few years ago, it was about to be taken apart to have its "original" crusader style hilt placed on it

. I did see a similar one on Artzi's site a few years ago. The inlay was added to the original makers marks later, most likely locally. It appears to be a red gold. The example you show is not the deaths head mark it is a swallow tail butterfly for a yet unknown maker. The only death's head I have seen is on this thread http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=skull+kull this is apparently on a kilij which doesn't make sense, unless it was converted to a kilij from a original broad sword. Unfortunately Teodor was not able to show the blade to confirm this.

All the Best
Jeff

TVV · 2nd May 2009, 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff D

Unfortunately Teodor was not able to show the blade to confirm this.

Jeff,

I regret not seeing the entire blade perhaps even more than you do. According to the owner, it is of pattern welded damascus, but I have never been able to confirm this.

Hopefully one day it will surface up for sale and I will be able to obtain more info and pictures.

Regards,

Teodor

stephen wood · 2nd May 2009, 02:34 AM

...that has to be it. The pierced tang is exactly what I would expect to see on a kaskara blade. It also fits Pallme's comment that the imported blades are "...rounded off inferiorly".

stephen wood · 6th May 2009, 03:35 PM

...on closer inspection I think the blade might have been shortened - at the hilt - by what I believe is called stock removal. Has anyone come across this method before?

stephen wood · 17th October 2009, 02:06 PM

...apparently the inscription says something along the lines that news spreads faster by the sword than the pen...

2nd May 2009, 01:20 AM	#1
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	Hi Stephen, No I got this one quite a few years ago, it was about to be taken apart to have its "original" crusader style hilt placed on it . I did see a similar one on Artzi's site a few years ago. The inlay was added to the original makers marks later, most likely locally. It appears to be a red gold. The example you show is not the deaths head mark it is a swallow tail butterfly for a yet unknown maker. The only death's head I have seen is on this thread http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=skull+kull this is apparently on a kilij which doesn't make sense, unless it was converted to a kilij from a original broad sword. Unfortunately Teodor was not able to show the blade to confirm this. All the Best Jeff

2nd May 2009, 02:34 AM	#3
stephen wood Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 227	...that has to be it. The pierced tang is exactly what I would expect to see on a kaskara blade. It also fits Pallme's comment that the imported blades are "...rounded off inferiorly".

6th May 2009, 03:35 PM	#4
stephen wood Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 227	...on closer inspection I think the blade might have been shortened - at the hilt - by what I believe is called stock removal. Has anyone come across this method before?

17th October 2009, 02:06 PM	#5
stephen wood Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 227	...apparently the inscription says something along the lines that news spreads faster by the sword than the pen...