Silver mounted Georgian hanger.

Gavin Nugent · 28th February 2009, 06:25 PM

I think it is a nice find and most unusual that the hilt is bone with what appears to be horn spacers all with silver fitings.
There must be something about it to have these features, I do not know why but am hoping others can say with some further certainty.
What I can point you to is the book, "the American Sword 1175-1945" by Harold Peterson.
On page 62, plate 56, this piece sports the similar knuckle guard, similar carved hilt arrangement, lions head and curved blade with the fullering arangment that yours shows and the guard is described as having incised lines as yours does too.
On page 212, plate 172, although in silver, the lions head is of higher quality as is yours, but it lacks the knuckle guard and the blade differs in the fullering arrangment and the silver mark also differs.

Gav

fernando · 28th February 2009, 07:47 PM

Very, very nice, Norman.
Certainly ivory?
XVIII century?
If in a second thought you decide that Indian stuff is your sole hobby, this humble servant will be ready for trade

.

Fernando

BTW, what is there to restore?

Norman McCormick · 28th February 2009, 09:21 PM

Hi Guys,
Thanks for the positive comments.
Gav, the 'horn spacers' are upon closer inspection silver ribbon wound round the grooves with twisted silver wire bordering the ribbon. Searching the net I'm beginning to think it is a nicer find than I first thought, sheer luck I hasten to add.
Fernando, I think for the moment trade between Portugal and Scotland will be limited to used sherry/port casks for the 'Whisky'. I think Ivory hilt as well after a better look. As to the restoration, there is some active rust on the blade and a lot of the silver is black with oxide. I haven't done anything yet before I get some opinions from the Forum Members including your good self of course.
Thanks again.
My Regards,
Norman.

fernando · 28th February 2009, 09:38 PM

I would see about the active rust on the blade ( fine steel wool damped in, for instance, penetrating oil), but would not touch the silver, for as dark as it may be.
... in my humble opinnion, of course

.
Fernando

28th February 2009, 06:25 PM	#1
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Most unusual I think it is a nice find and most unusual that the hilt is bone with what appears to be horn spacers all with silver fitings. There must be something about it to have these features, I do not know why but am hoping others can say with some further certainty. What I can point you to is the book, "the American Sword 1175-1945" by Harold Peterson. On page 62, plate 56, this piece sports the similar knuckle guard, similar carved hilt arrangement, lions head and curved blade with the fullering arangment that yours shows and the guard is described as having incised lines as yours does too. On page 212, plate 172, although in silver, the lions head is of higher quality as is yours, but it lacks the knuckle guard and the blade differs in the fullering arrangment and the silver mark also differs. Gav Last edited by freebooter; 28th February 2009 at 06:40 PM. Reason: More info found

28th February 2009, 07:47 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Very, very nice, Norman. Certainly ivory? XVIII century? If in a second thought you decide that Indian stuff is your sole hobby, this humble servant will be ready for trade . Fernando BTW, what is there to restore?

28th February 2009, 09:21 PM	#3
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,646	Hi Guys, Thanks for the positive comments. Gav, the 'horn spacers' are upon closer inspection silver ribbon wound round the grooves with twisted silver wire bordering the ribbon. Searching the net I'm beginning to think it is a nicer find than I first thought, sheer luck I hasten to add. Fernando, I think for the moment trade between Portugal and Scotland will be limited to used sherry/port casks for the 'Whisky'. I think Ivory hilt as well after a better look. As to the restoration, there is some active rust on the blade and a lot of the silver is black with oxide. I haven't done anything yet before I get some opinions from the Forum Members including your good self of course. Thanks again. My Regards, Norman.

28th February 2009, 09:38 PM	#4
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	I would see about the active rust on the blade ( fine steel wool damped in, for instance, penetrating oil), but would not touch the silver, for as dark as it may be. ... in my humble opinnion, of course . Fernando