what is it?

Yannis · 3rd January 2009, 01:31 AM

Welcome Ilias
Too big, too fancy and lot of patina for sish kebab Ariel.

If Tim says it is African, that is good for me. But someone must translate. As far as I can understand the letters are upside down

Lew · 3rd January 2009, 02:29 AM

It seems much too long for a spike end of a spear. Also it is quite nice and fancy but I don't have a clue.

Lew

Tim Simmons · 3rd January 2009, 01:28 PM

Long spike end of East African spear. I have never seen one with a rectangular section like yours. The horizontal pictures here are of a Western Soudan spear with similar section and work around the socket. I so far have never seen a spear with that type of end spike from this region, does not mean they do not exist. I could see your item as a big awl type of lance. To kabab people with.

ilias · 3rd January 2009, 02:43 PM

Maybe you are right, but I want to refer at a search that I made and I found at Henri Moser book "Orientalische sammlung" edition 1955 a spear from Turkestan that it is almost the same with sort saft at the back.The spear is 103cm long and total length 152 cm.I will try to attach the photo.

ilias · 3rd January 2009, 05:07 PM

These are the images I said before.Do you see any simillarities? That spear is 103cm but there is a similar spear at 123cm and total length 186cm.This one at the photo is 157cm.

3rd January 2009, 01:28 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	Long spike end of East African spear. I have never seen one with a rectangular section like yours. The horizontal pictures here are of a Western Soudan spear with similar section and work around the socket. I so far have never seen a spear with that type of end spike from this region, does not mean they do not exist. I could see your item as a big awl type of lance. To kabab people with. Attached Images

3rd January 2009, 05:07 PM	#5
ilias Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: GREECE Posts: 73	These are the images I said before.Do you see any simillarities? That spear is 103cm but there is a similar spear at 123cm and total length 186cm.This one at the photo is 157cm. Attached Images

3rd January 2009, 01:31 AM	#1
Yannis Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Athens Greece Posts: 479	Welcome Ilias Too big, too fancy and lot of patina for sish kebab Ariel. If Tim says it is African, that is good for me. But someone must translate. As far as I can understand the letters are upside down

3rd January 2009, 02:29 AM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	It seems much too long for a spike end of a spear. Also it is quite nice and fancy but I don't have a clue. Lew

3rd January 2009, 02:43 PM	#4
ilias Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: GREECE Posts: 73	Maybe you are right, but I want to refer at a search that I made and I found at Henri Moser book "Orientalische sammlung" edition 1955 a spear from Turkestan that it is almost the same with sort saft at the back.The spear is 103cm long and total length 152 cm.I will try to attach the photo.