Unusual asymetrical Igarot spear head

VVV · 3rd January 2009, 12:12 AM

From Krieger - see #8.

Michael

migueldiaz · 3rd January 2009, 12:30 AM

Thanks Michael, for the most useful additional info.

Given that the usual configuration (per pics I posted) are all symmetrical, but given on the other hand that in Krieger's sampling there's one that is asymmetrical, then that makes the asymmetrical form really rare I guess.

Bill M · 3rd January 2009, 12:58 AM

Mine does not seen especially well-made or unusual in any way except for the asymmetry. What I mean is that it looks like it was made for use, not display or ceremony. It is heavy and stout!

I also have another one, longer, with the same ferrule and spear shaft design, similar to the 4th from the right in Miguel Diaz's picture.

Both of mine have the socketed spike butt end.

Michael, thank you for pointing out the one in Kreiger. Does yours have the ferrule and shaft like mine?

How about yours, Ben? If they all have similar ferrules like the one in Krieger, it could indicate they were made by the same culture or sub-culture. Perhaps in a similar time period?

An additional question is that mine are in very clean condition suggesting being well-kept for a long time, or was made more recent.

The wood has that older, well-kept look. The collector these came from said that they were in his wife's family for a long time. She is Fillipina.

Dajak · 3rd January 2009, 08:04 AM

Hi Bill it is the same as the one you have .

Ben

Bill M · 3rd January 2009, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dajak

Hi Bill it is the same as the one you have .

Ben

Hi Ben,

Do you have any age, other information or provenance on yours?

Tim Simmons · 3rd January 2009, 12:22 PM

I really like this sort of strong simple metal work and design. Often seen on African weapons. Reminds me of Japanese aesthetics of form, just lacking decoration and coloured metals.

Dajak · 3rd January 2009, 01:14 PM

Hi Bill the only thing I now is that I have it from an old time collector it was in his collection more than 40 years .

so it must be at least 50 years old I have it almost 10 years .
Ben

3rd January 2009, 12:12 AM	#1
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	From Krieger - see #8. Michael Attached Images

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migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	Thanks Michael, for the most useful additional info. Given that the usual configuration (per pics I posted) are all symmetrical, but given on the other hand that in Krieger's sampling there's one that is asymmetrical, then that makes the asymmetrical form really rare I guess. Last edited by migueldiaz; 3rd January 2009 at 12:44 AM.

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Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Mine does not seen especially well-made or unusual in any way except for the asymmetry. What I mean is that it looks like it was made for use, not display or ceremony. It is heavy and stout! I also have another one, longer, with the same ferrule and spear shaft design, similar to the 4th from the right in Miguel Diaz's picture. Both of mine have the socketed spike butt end. Michael, thank you for pointing out the one in Kreiger. Does yours have the ferrule and shaft like mine? How about yours, Ben? If they all have similar ferrules like the one in Krieger, it could indicate they were made by the same culture or sub-culture. Perhaps in a similar time period? An additional question is that mine are in very clean condition suggesting being well-kept for a long time, or was made more recent. The wood has that older, well-kept look. The collector these came from said that they were in his wife's family for a long time. She is Fillipina. Last edited by Bill Marsh; 3rd January 2009 at 01:09 AM.

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Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,925	I really like this sort of strong simple metal work and design. Often seen on African weapons. Reminds me of Japanese aesthetics of form, just lacking decoration and coloured metals. Attached Images

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Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Bill it is the same as the one you have . Ben

3rd January 2009, 01:14 PM	#7
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Bill the only thing I now is that I have it from an old time collector it was in his collection more than 40 years . so it must be at least 50 years old I have it almost 10 years . Ben