If one would be made for you how would it be?

Kiai Carita · 23rd December 2008, 03:14 AM

So far, only Pak Alan has revealed the esoteric power of his dream keris - to make him win the Lotto or become a king of a small country.

What would other forumite's ideal tuah be?

I'm still thinking about mine.

Probably a tuah that would let me get away with anything. One that would let me enter airports and get on planes without passport or ticket, get in a hotel and get a room without paying, and that sort of stuff. Maybe then I could travel and see the world.

On a more serious side, I think that Pak Alan's dhapur kanghuru, pamor ron kulabah, with a wrangka of red cedar and ukiran of ringed gidgee, would be a very interesting and authentic Australian keris. It would represent the continuing development of keris culture, a museum piece indeed.

Just one more question on the Australian warangka; would it follow a Surakarta, Yogya, east Java, Bali or any other Nusantara ethnic style, or would it have it's own style, maybe a stylized surf-board rather than a stylized boat?

A. G. Maisey · 23rd December 2008, 07:35 AM

If it was going to be a wrongko Oz, it would naturally have to be inspired by an Oz motif, the same with the hilt. Maybe something like a bumahrang for the inspiration of the wrongko, and perhaps a representation of the Rainbow Serpent for the jejeran.

Anyway, whatever way we went, there are plenty of Oz motifs that could be reworked to fit the context of the keris.

David · 23rd December 2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

If it was going to be a wrongko Oz, it would naturally have to be inspired by an Oz motif, the same with the hilt. Maybe something like a bumahrang for the inspiration of the wrongko, and perhaps a representation of the Rainbow Serpent for the jejeran.

Is a bumahrang what we illiterate Americans call a boomerang?

Jussi M. · 23rd December 2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiai Carita

So far, only Pak Alan has revealed the esoteric power of his dream keris - to make him win the Lotto or become a king of a small country.

What would other forumite's ideal tuah be?

On the other I have this area well covered so most possibly I would like something else...
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Admit it... what else is there to want?

Thanks,

J.

ps. these pics are meant to continue the lighthearted mood of this thread and are not meant to offend anyone anywhere for any reason possible.

Rick · 23rd December 2008, 03:01 PM

Winters are long where you are Jussi ..

Aren't they ?

The tuah I would want would be for prosperity, popularity and the power to spread good will among those I meet in life .

Jussi M. · 23rd December 2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Winters are long where you are Jussi ..

Aren't they ?

Oh yes they are. Not complaining though

A. G. Maisey · 23rd December 2008, 05:56 PM

Jussi, my dreamtime keris was one that would give me wealth + power.

Effectively one equates to the other.

For what do we use wealth and power?

Jussi M. · 23rd December 2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Jussi, my dreamtime keris was one that would give me wealth + power.

Effectively one equates to the other.

For what do we use wealth and power?

Errrr.... to acquire beautiful... kerises?

Thanks,

J

A. G. Maisey · 24th December 2008, 10:11 PM

"Is a bumahrang what we illiterate Americans call a boomerang?"

Yeah David.As with "coolabah" and "kangaroo", I gave it a Javanese spelling, and if you want to appear to be refined in Javanese, you never miss the opportunity to throw an additional "h" in where it sounds like it might fit.

Jussi, as for using wealth and power to acquire kerises, yes, I guess that is a possibility, but being a traditionalist, I think I would prefer to stay with the more traditional use of wealth and power.

You know , there's a story about one of the old time rajas of Klungkung, in Bali.

Every morning he'd go to a vantage point that overlooked the street leading to the market, and he'd peruse the women on their way to market. When he noted one that pleased him, he'd order his attendents to bring her to him later that day. Don't know what eventually happened to that raja, but I figure he might not have lasted a real long while. That was maybe overuse of wealth and power.

23rd December 2008, 03:14 AM	#1
Kiai Carita Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 91	So far, only Pak Alan has revealed the esoteric power of his dream keris - to make him win the Lotto or become a king of a small country. What would other forumite's ideal tuah be? I'm still thinking about mine. Probably a tuah that would let me get away with anything. One that would let me enter airports and get on planes without passport or ticket, get in a hotel and get a room without paying, and that sort of stuff. Maybe then I could travel and see the world. On a more serious side, I think that Pak Alan's dhapur kanghuru, pamor ron kulabah, with a wrangka of red cedar and ukiran of ringed gidgee, would be a very interesting and authentic Australian keris. It would represent the continuing development of keris culture, a museum piece indeed. Just one more question on the Australian warangka; would it follow a Surakarta, Yogya, east Java, Bali or any other Nusantara ethnic style, or would it have it's own style, maybe a stylized surf-board rather than a stylized boat?

23rd December 2008, 07:35 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,047	If it was going to be a wrongko Oz, it would naturally have to be inspired by an Oz motif, the same with the hilt. Maybe something like a bumahrang for the inspiration of the wrongko, and perhaps a representation of the Rainbow Serpent for the jejeran. Anyway, whatever way we went, there are plenty of Oz motifs that could be reworked to fit the context of the keris.

23rd December 2008, 03:01 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	Winters are long where you are Jussi .. Aren't they ? The tuah I would want would be for prosperity, popularity and the power to spread good will among those I meet in life .

23rd December 2008, 05:56 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,047	Jussi, my dreamtime keris was one that would give me wealth + power. Effectively one equates to the other. For what do we use wealth and power?

24th December 2008, 10:11 PM	#9
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,047	"Is a bumahrang what we illiterate Americans call a boomerang?" Yeah David.As with "coolabah" and "kangaroo", I gave it a Javanese spelling, and if you want to appear to be refined in Javanese, you never miss the opportunity to throw an additional "h" in where it sounds like it might fit. Jussi, as for using wealth and power to acquire kerises, yes, I guess that is a possibility, but being a traditionalist, I think I would prefer to stay with the more traditional use of wealth and power. You know , there's a story about one of the old time rajas of Klungkung, in Bali. Every morning he'd go to a vantage point that overlooked the street leading to the market, and he'd peruse the women on their way to market. When he noted one that pleased him, he'd order his attendents to bring her to him later that day. Don't know what eventually happened to that raja, but I figure he might not have lasted a real long while. That was maybe overuse of wealth and power.