Some late Gothic daggers

[celtan]

Jut kiddin', and not really. I'm a working guy just like all of us, with a love for objets d'art disguised as weapons.

And it's all a matter of taste, some may choose dinners at IHOP over Morton's, and with arguably good reasons.





BTW: Very nice posts, Michael. Keep up the good work!

Best regards

Manuel

Originally Posted by Matchlock

You sure are a lucky guy, celtan! (and a rich one, too).

Michael

[Gonzalo G]

Are they your´s Manolo? They are very beautiful pieces. It´s a pity the first photo is not completely clear. Can you give some information about the measures, materials and weight of this pieces? Thank you very much for your attention.
Regards

Gonzalo

[celtan]

Muchas Gracias Gonzalo,

I must commend your excellent taste, they are indeed muy bonitas.

OTOH, they are very dangerous, I hope nobody paid the ultimate price after meeting these femmes fatales. Their blades are most wicked.

Will do as you request. In the meanwhile, check these pics. Best if you use the slideshow feature.

http://s353.photobucket.com/albums/r...pean%20Dagger/

http://s353.photobucket.com/albums/r...multifullered/

[David]

Matchlock, i am confused by the Peter Finer tag on all these daggers. Are they currently for sale or up for auction?

[Matchlock]

David,

Peter Finer is an antique arms & armor dealer. Some of these daggers are contained in his current online catalog:

http://peterfiner.com

Michael

[Jim McDougall]

Originally Posted by Matchlock

David,

Peter Finer is an antique arms & armor dealer. Some of these daggers are contained in his current online catalog:

http://peterfiner.com

Michael

Interesting site, and Peter Finer is an outstanding dealer who has been around a very long time! What I cant see though is if this is a current auction, which is the concern.

[Emanuel]

Hello, gorgeous daggers!

This one made my eyes bulge. It recalls the decorative scheme we see on the handles of bou-saada (khodme) daggers from Algeria, and we've seen it on some Central Asian and Indo-Persian daggers as well. Almost the same decoration of a circle within a circle, repeated along multiple facets.

The pictures below the ballock dagger show: a dagger from Iran, a khodme, a bichaq, and another khodme (I got the top three pics from older threads, the bottom khodme was mine). The circles are in some cases painted/burned, into the handle surface. None of these examples are particularly old, but it's interesting to see the pattern maintained or revived.

Regards,
Emanuel

[David]

Originally Posted by Matchlock

David,

Peter Finer is an antique arms & armor dealer. Some of these daggers are contained in his current online catalog:

http://peterfiner.com

Michael

Yes, i am well aware that Peter Finer is a dealer. This is exactly my point. If these are current auctions then they should not be discussed on the forum. It's is the forum rules if you haven't read them.

[stekemest]

Almost the same decoration of a circle within a circle, repeated along multiple facets.

That "cirle within a cirle"-decoration can be seen on many celtic artifacts and, somehow, reappears around the 13th/14th century to be in use throughout the late middle ages. I could well imagine that the eastern and western pieces with that decoration have the same origin in prehistorical times.

btw, here's one of my gothic daggers. A rather rare piece from the first half of the 15th century, German, blade maybe shortened. I will start working on a replica soon.

[Ed]

Originally Posted by David

Yes, i am well aware that Peter Finer is a dealer. This is exactly my point. If these are current auctions then they should not be discussed on the forum. It's is the forum rules if you haven't read them.

Hi.

Peter is a dealer, not an auction house. But I am curious, can you point me to the rules? Can't seem to find 'em.

[celtan]

Upper is 11.3 oz in wt., almost 16.5" long, and with a 12" blade.

Lower is 6.1 oz. in wt., 13" long, and with a 8.3" blade

Sorry it took this long, but I had them stored in their display.

Best

M

Originally Posted by Gonzalo G

Are they your´s Manolo? They are very beautiful pieces. It´s a pity the first photo is not completely clear. Can you give some information about the measures, materials and weight of this pieces? Thank you very much for your attention.
Regards

Gonzalo

[Gonzalo G]

!Thank you, Manuel! I will writte this specifications on the files.
Un abrazo

Gonzalo