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Old 12th November 2008, 01:37 AM   #1
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Hi Fearn ,
I have seen the image for the Tyler's sword, after 'googling' "tyler's sword" in Google images ....the majority though were straight bladed I think you'll agree though that the quality of the blade on this tyler's sword seems poorer quality than on the 'thread starting' sword. In fact it looks as if it once was straight bladed and then the waves ground out.

The sword could indeed be a Tyler's Sword ...... or a Victorian "wallhanger".... or perhaps something more interesting. I myself, am undecided .... but , I do not close my mind to the possibilities...any 'sensible deductions' that cannot be definately dis-proved are 'potentially' true.

Sorry Fearn, when looking at your example of the 'pineapple' finial .... all I see is ... artichoke

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Old 12th November 2008, 05:27 AM   #2
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Hi Katana,

As for the pineapple, I don't disagree with you on an botanical basis. On a commercial/artistic basis...well, I just googled "pineapple finial" and took one of the first images.

I've attached an artichoke finial for comparison.

As you can see, most swordsmiths aren't botanists. A cross-hatched ovoid pommel isn't really definitive.

Unless we assume that whoever made this was a plant freak or a realistic artist, there are a bunch of other things it could be, such as a raspberry, a protea, a badly done strawberry, some types of conifer cone, and the like. It could also be a stylized hand grenade, too, if you want to go way afield.

I'd identified the pommel as an pineapple because I knew that was a common motif in Europe. If it's not a pineapple, then we need to come up with a reason why someone mounted a poorly sculpted artichoke (or whatever it is) on the butt of a sword with a non-functional blade.

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