British service in India sword ?

rand · 7th November 2008, 12:52 PM

Hey Guys,

Thanks for your information. Hee is a photo of the mark, It says "Proved T."

Was interesting about the added "I" for India.....

rand

rand · 7th November 2008, 03:59 PM

Have been advised that this sword may be a copy and to check the discriminating general site which I have, the decoraion on the spine of the hilt is different. Not sure if hey make more than one copy or not. This sword has been hanging on the wall at my brothers house for over thirty years...

Would like your thoughts on if this may be a copy or not.

I do appreciate all opinions.....

rand

rand · 7th November 2008, 04:24 PM

Picture of copy made by "Discriminating General.....

katana · 7th November 2008, 06:02 PM

Hi Rand

,
here are pictures of another 1822 pattern with a similar 'back strap'.... but with a George IV catouche on the 'guard'

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...%3Den%26sa%3DN

Is there a possibility that this is a P1845 Officer's Sword. Very nearly identical to the P1822. I understand that the difference being that the P1845 has a fullered "Wilkinson" blade instead of a pipe back blade ??

Regards David

Norman McCormick · 7th November 2008, 06:11 PM

Hi,
I think that Rand's sword is an 1845 pattern with the 1854 variant hilt. The 1822 has a pipe back blade and a partially folding basket, the 1845 a single fullered spearpoint blade and the 1854 variant a fixed basket. There will always be exceptions but as far as I can remember this was the specifications as per the British Army.
Regards,
Norman.

rand · 7th November 2008, 09:14 PM

Besides what pattern the sword is am now trying to find out if it is a copy or not. The threads I have read on this subject no longer have the photo's attached to reference. If you know a related thread reguarding to this proof mark or sword please post the link here..

thanks,
rand

katana · 7th November 2008, 10:45 PM

Rand,
Robert Wilkinson-Latham mentions the 'proved T' mark in this thread....

http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=87782

Regards

7th November 2008, 12:52 PM	#1
rand Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 539	Hey Guys, Thanks for your information. Hee is a photo of the mark, It says "Proved T." Was interesting about the added "I" for India..... rand Attached Images

7th November 2008, 03:59 PM	#2
rand Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 539	Have been advised that this sword may be a copy and to check the discriminating general site which I have, the decoraion on the spine of the hilt is different. Not sure if hey make more than one copy or not. This sword has been hanging on the wall at my brothers house for over thirty years... Would like your thoughts on if this may be a copy or not. I do appreciate all opinions..... rand Attached Images Last edited by rand; 7th November 2008 at 04:53 PM.

7th November 2008, 04:24 PM	#3
rand Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 539	Picture of copy made by "Discriminating General..... Attached Images

7th November 2008, 06:02 PM	#4
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Hi Rand , here are pictures of another 1822 pattern with a similar 'back strap'.... but with a George IV catouche on the 'guard' http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?im...%3Den%26sa%3DN Is there a possibility that this is a P1845 Officer's Sword. Very nearly identical to the P1822. I understand that the difference being that the P1845 has a fullered "Wilkinson" blade instead of a pipe back blade ?? Regards David Last edited by katana; 7th November 2008 at 06:13 PM.

7th November 2008, 06:11 PM	#5
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,618	Hi, I think that Rand's sword is an 1845 pattern with the 1854 variant hilt. The 1822 has a pipe back blade and a partially folding basket, the 1845 a single fullered spearpoint blade and the 1854 variant a fixed basket. There will always be exceptions but as far as I can remember this was the specifications as per the British Army. Regards, Norman. Last edited by Norman McCormick; 7th November 2008 at 06:18 PM. Reason: Further Info.

7th November 2008, 09:14 PM	#6
rand Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 539	Besides what pattern the sword is am now trying to find out if it is a copy or not. The threads I have read on this subject no longer have the photo's attached to reference. If you know a related thread reguarding to this proof mark or sword please post the link here.. thanks, rand

7th November 2008, 10:45 PM	#7
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,658	Rand, Robert Wilkinson-Latham mentions the 'proved T' mark in this thread.... http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=87782 Regards