Keris Ligan

[gwirya]

Dear all,
I recently acquired this ligan (pedang keris) from Lombok. I think it fits the description from Ir. Lalu Djelenga book, Keris di Lombok. The blade itself is not straight, it curves like a pedang. It also has half the back edge of the blade(inner side of the blade curve) without an edge (see pictures). The pesi itself has a rectangular shape. I dont have a scale handy while taking the pictures; but the blade has approximately 60 cm in length from tip of the blade to the pesi end. (two pieces of A4 photocopy paper combine together in length)
Any idea how old is this? Pamor type?
Any comments positive or negative will be appreciated

[Marcokeris]

IMO the nice blade seems old (pamor Walang Sinuduk?) but hit not so old.
The Solo keris' sarong wood (Cendana?) seems fantastic

[semar]

Hello guys I don`t know of this is one keris ligan but the dapur looks like a pedang

semar

[gwirya]

Originally Posted by semar

Hello guys I don`t know of this is one keris ligan but the dapur looks like a pedang

semar

Hallo semar, I think the keris on the first picture is a keris ligan. In addition to what Alan mentioned above, looking at the pictures of keris ligan in my Keris in Lombok book, it seems like all keris ligan don't have gandik, sekar kacang, jenggot, lambe gajah etc ( all the ricikan on the left side of the keris if you hold the keris as usual). It does have sogokan, bungkul and ada ada. About the size, I am not sure if it has to be bigger than normal Bali/Lombok keris.
To Marcokeris, brekele and Newsteel, thanks for your comments

[Rick]

Of my Ligan .
Note the odd number of open spaces, 7 .

Comments ?

[gwirya]

Originally Posted by Rick

Of my Ligan .
Note the odd number of open spaces, 7 .

Comments ?

Honestly,first impression, spooky , It reminds me of Jack O Lantern (the carved pumpkin). Rick, does your picture have anything to do with the upcoming halloween? (joking)
I browse my Keris in Lombok book by Ir. Lalu Djelenga, and found very little information regarding this open space, in fact so far I found none mentioning about the "Shiva's eyes". There are only a few keris in the pictures that have shiva's eyes. Does anyone have any information about the Shiva's eyes?

[Rick]

Hmmm, you're right Gwirya .
I noticed that while processing the shot last night; any way it gives a good silhouette image of the spaces .

Trick or Treat anyone ??

[brekele]

Originally Posted by gwirya

Any comments positive or negative will be appreciated

Thanks Gwirya for showing us your keris.
Absolutely nice keris and RARE!!!

[A. G. Maisey]

Marco, in respect of the Solo ladrang,that appearance is more typical of trembalu than cendana.

[Newsteel]

Very good old nice keris pedang gwirya !!!! Has been some time back I'd seen something similar keris pedang with Shiva eyes.

[David]

Originally Posted by Newsteel

Very good old nice keris pedang gwirya !!!! Has been some time back I'd seen something similar keris pedang with Shiva eyes.

You must have missed this thread from this past June.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=ligan

[Ghaniyya]

Originally Posted by gwirya

Dear all,
I recently acquired this ligan (pedang keris) from Lombok. I think it fits the description from Ir. Lalu Djelenga book, Keris di Lombok. The blade itself is not straight, it curves like a pedang. It also has half the back edge of the blade(inner side of the blade curve) without an edge (see pictures). The pesi itself has a rectangular shape. I dont have a scale handy while taking the pictures; but the blade has approximately 60 cm in length from tip of the blade to the pesi end. (two pieces of A4 photocopy paper combine together in length)
Any idea how old is this? Pamor type?
Any comments positive or negative will be appreciated

So beatifully....
look at from the iron, it's the same as Majapahit era.

[Paul B.]

How about my LIGAN keris?
Blade size 47,5 cm, overall 67 cm. That's quite a large one.
Kocet-kocetan might not belong to it (as it is from Lombok?) but the selut is from gold / suasa so a valuable part of the handle.

[jagabuwana]

That's stunning, Paul.

I learned a lot in this thread. Had I not known any better I would have thought I was looking at some kind of keris dhapur sepang.

[Anthony G.]

Modern era Bali made keris Ligan.

Correct?

[Sajen]

Here my honest example, 76 cm inside scabbard, 71 cm without, blade without pesi 57 cm. Last picture show it together with a huge Moro kris for size comparison.