Scandinavian cutlass M 1801 for Chasseurs / Hunters

kisak · 13th October 2008, 03:03 AM

It seems that the m/1748 and m/1808 are basically the same. Berg doens't mention the m/1808 at all, but judging from the sign at the army museum, the Swedish army ceased with the cutlasses in 1806, only to start with them again in 1808. A number of new ones were made for this, and these new ones got labelled as m/1808.

The m/1856 is an m/1748 which has had the blade reshaped a bit with a pointier tip.

celtan · 13th October 2008, 04:14 AM

What about the screwed pommels and knuckleguards? Did the 1748 have them?

I did notice a certain difference between the two I own, the shape of the quillons, the depth and width of the fuller, and the width and length of the blades...

Sorry to bother you so much!

: ).

Best

M

kisak · 14th October 2008, 12:34 AM

The m/1748 had the knuckleguard screwed to the pommel, yes.

And as for all the questions, I'm just glad that I can be of some help.

celtan · 30th October 2008, 11:35 PM

Hi Kisak,
I have a sword identical to the "broken saber" in your picture. What's its ID..?
Best
Manuel

kisak · 31st October 2008, 01:42 PM

The pictures are from the Army Museum in Stockholm, and according to them it's an m/1775-1807 for troopers at Savolax' light infantry regiment. It's a "modification model", where the inner guards on the old m/1775 sabers were ground off to reduce wear&tear on the uniforms. The m/1775 in turn seems to be identical to the m/1770 for Savolax' jaegers on foot.

You can get a better look at an m/1770 or m/1775 here: http://www.auktionsverket.se/dbkatal...007-12-10&anr=

13th October 2008, 03:03 AM	#1
kisak Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Stockholm Posts: 182	It seems that the m/1748 and m/1808 are basically the same. Berg doens't mention the m/1808 at all, but judging from the sign at the army museum, the Swedish army ceased with the cutlasses in 1806, only to start with them again in 1808. A number of new ones were made for this, and these new ones got labelled as m/1808. The m/1856 is an m/1748 which has had the blade reshaped a bit with a pointier tip.

13th October 2008, 04:14 AM	#2
celtan Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PR, USA Posts: 679	What about the screwed pommels and knuckleguards? Did the 1748 have them? I did notice a certain difference between the two I own, the shape of the quillons, the depth and width of the fuller, and the width and length of the blades... Sorry to bother you so much! : ). Best M

14th October 2008, 12:34 AM	#3
kisak Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Stockholm Posts: 182	The m/1748 had the knuckleguard screwed to the pommel, yes. And as for all the questions, I'm just glad that I can be of some help.

30th October 2008, 11:35 PM	#4
celtan Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PR, USA Posts: 679	Hi Kisak, I have a sword identical to the "broken saber" in your picture. What's its ID..? Best Manuel

31st October 2008, 01:42 PM	#5
kisak Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Stockholm Posts: 182	The pictures are from the Army Museum in Stockholm, and according to them it's an m/1775-1807 for troopers at Savolax' light infantry regiment. It's a "modification model", where the inner guards on the old m/1775 sabers were ground off to reduce wear&tear on the uniforms. The m/1775 in turn seems to be identical to the m/1770 for Savolax' jaegers on foot. You can get a better look at an m/1770 or m/1775 here: http://www.auktionsverket.se/dbkatal...007-12-10&anr=