The Kris Gets All The Glory ..

mross · 8th July 2008, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

Kris as we know them today were not in use in 1521. Magellan was wounded in his sword arm by a bamboo spear so he was easy pickings.

Then, trying to lay hand on sword, he could draw it out but halfway, because he had been wounded in the arm with a bamboo spear. When the natives saw that, they all hurled themselves upon him. One of them wounded him on the left leg with a large cutlass, which resembles a scimitar, only being larger.

Scimitar? Sounds more like a large pira to me and not a kamiplan

Lew

The resembles a scimitiar only being larger points to the KP. Granted I have not seen many Pira, but the ones I have seen tended to be smaller similiar to a navel cutlass rather then a scimitar only larger.

Rick · 8th July 2008, 07:09 PM

See Cato; pg. 48

Lew · 8th July 2008, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

See Cato; pg. 48

Don't have the book

Rick · 8th July 2008, 11:09 PM

Shown with Kampilan .

http://www.melovillareal.com/photobl...ent-luneta.jpg

http://www.psdtc.com/Pekiti.Tirsia/lapu.lapu.2.jpg

Lew · 9th July 2008, 05:31 AM

Check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl1T6c8w4A

nacho · 10th July 2008, 03:39 AM

Lapu-lapu is often shown in statues holding a kampilan. I don't think from the accounts of the Magellan expedition survivors it is clear Lapu-lapu wielded a kampilan. He was from Cebu. Just thinking... perhaps he used a Visayan sword (tenegre?).

PenangsangII · 10th July 2008, 03:52 AM

If indeed Lapu-Lapu had used kampilan to kill Magellan, IMHO it doent deserve much recognition either because of the number of Spanish soldiers were too small comparatively, and were fighting in an unfamiliar territory for the first time

I think the later part of battles in the southern Philippines against the Moros whom were synonimous to kris (sundang in Malay) and barong deserved more attention - thus the much credit to the kris.

8th July 2008, 11:09 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Lapu Lapu Shown with Kampilan . http://www.melovillareal.com/photobl...ent-luneta.jpg http://www.psdtc.com/Pekiti.Tirsia/lapu.lapu.2.jpg

10th July 2008, 03:39 AM	#6
nacho Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Makati Posts: 69	Lapu-lapu's kampilan Lapu-lapu is often shown in statues holding a kampilan. I don't think from the accounts of the Magellan expedition survivors it is clear Lapu-lapu wielded a kampilan. He was from Cebu. Just thinking... perhaps he used a Visayan sword (tenegre?).

8th July 2008, 07:09 PM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	See Cato; pg. 48

9th July 2008, 05:31 AM	#5
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl1T6c8w4A

10th July 2008, 03:52 AM	#7
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	If indeed Lapu-Lapu had used kampilan to kill Magellan, IMHO it doent deserve much recognition either because of the number of Spanish soldiers were too small comparatively, and were fighting in an unfamiliar territory for the first time I think the later part of battles in the southern Philippines against the Moros whom were synonimous to kris (sundang in Malay) and barong deserved more attention - thus the much credit to the kris.