The Kris Gets All The Glory ..

mross · 7th July 2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Lapu Lapu is shown with a Kampilan .

The sword of the Iranun pirates of Sulu .

The favored sword for combat in Mindanao; ornate ones often carried by a royal retainer in a retinue; stuff like that .

I'd rather go into a fight with a kampilan and or spear .
Kris as a back up .

Whatcha think ?

Full aggrement, Magellan was killed with a KP. Most accounts of significant Moro kills are with the KP. I cannot recall a single significant battle that mentions the Kris.

Lew · 7th July 2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mross

Full aggrement, Magellan was killed with a KP. Most accounts of significant Moro kills are with the KP. I cannot recall a single significant battle that mentions the Kris.

Kris as we know them today were not in use in 1521. Magellan was wounded in his sword arm by a bamboo spear so he was easy pickings.

Then, trying to lay hand on sword, he could draw it out but halfway, because he had been wounded in the arm with a bamboo spear. When the natives saw that, they all hurled themselves upon him. One of them wounded him on the left leg with a large cutlass, which resembles a scimitar, only being larger.

Scimitar? Sounds more like a large pira to me and not a kamiplan

Lew

mross · 8th July 2008, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

Kris as we know them today were not in use in 1521. Magellan was wounded in his sword arm by a bamboo spear so he was easy pickings.

Then, trying to lay hand on sword, he could draw it out but halfway, because he had been wounded in the arm with a bamboo spear. When the natives saw that, they all hurled themselves upon him. One of them wounded him on the left leg with a large cutlass, which resembles a scimitar, only being larger.

Scimitar? Sounds more like a large pira to me and not a kamiplan

Lew

The resembles a scimitiar only being larger points to the KP. Granted I have not seen many Pira, but the ones I have seen tended to be smaller similiar to a navel cutlass rather then a scimitar only larger.

Rick · 8th July 2008, 07:09 PM

See Cato; pg. 48

Lew · 8th July 2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

See Cato; pg. 48

Don't have the book

Rick · 8th July 2008, 11:09 PM

Shown with Kampilan .

http://www.melovillareal.com/photobl...ent-luneta.jpg

http://www.psdtc.com/Pekiti.Tirsia/lapu.lapu.2.jpg

Lew · 9th July 2008, 05:31 AM

Check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl1T6c8w4A

8th July 2008, 11:09 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	Lapu Lapu Shown with Kampilan . http://www.melovillareal.com/photobl...ent-luneta.jpg http://www.psdtc.com/Pekiti.Tirsia/lapu.lapu.2.jpg

8th July 2008, 07:09 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,347	See Cato; pg. 48

9th July 2008, 05:31 AM	#7
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	Check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCl1T6c8w4A