Puzzling greneng works

Alam Shah · 4th July 2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Maybe there is a Turkish connection...

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Hmmm... maybe, if I'll try to get the 'bearish' jawa demam hilt form, which is known to be Sumatran... a form found used in Minangkabau pieces. It have 'ears' like the yataghan hilt.

RobT · 4th July 2008, 06:40 PM

Hi All,
Hopefully my comment isn't so far off base as to have me compared to a recent "contributor" to the forum but after seeing the other photos on the AlamShah website, the tang still looks further toward the dagu side of the keris than is normal. If that is the case then, given the quality of the blade, I have to imagine the empu knew exactly what he was doing and the offset was deliberate. What then was the reason for that positioning?
Sincerely,
RobT

kai · 5th July 2008, 12:40 AM

Some keris have a pesi much more prominently based off-center than this example. I have no pics at hand but those I can remember from the top of my head were a few sepokal blades and a variant keris panjang.

I'd need to handle such a keris to assess the function. Maybe with the curved sepokal blades it doesn't make that much of a difference, anyway?

Regards,
Kai

4th July 2008, 06:40 PM	#2
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 551	Why? Hi All, Hopefully my comment isn't so far off base as to have me compared to a recent "contributor" to the forum but after seeing the other photos on the AlamShah website, the tang still looks further toward the dagu side of the keris than is normal. If that is the case then, given the quality of the blade, I have to imagine the empu knew exactly what he was doing and the offset was deliberate. What then was the reason for that positioning? Sincerely, RobT

5th July 2008, 12:40 AM	#3
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Some keris have a pesi much more prominently based off-center than this example. I have no pics at hand but those I can remember from the top of my head were a few sepokal blades and a variant keris panjang. I'd need to handle such a keris to assess the function. Maybe with the curved sepokal blades it doesn't make that much of a difference, anyway? Regards, Kai