Maranao Sundang

baganing_balyan · 3rd July 2008, 07:58 AM

also, study the surface of the blade. If it's grainier, then it's not older. Sharpening a snaky kris with no distinct design or pamor on both sides also makes the area near the center of the blade smooth. the blade just looks new to me.

don't tell me you want me to elaborate more on the handle which is the most problematic one.

kai · 3rd July 2008, 09:10 AM

Hello Miya,

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also, study the surface of the blade. If it's grainier, then it's not older.

This blade has been etched with ferric chloride which is more agressive than coconut water or other traditional etchants used in SE Asia.

I agree that a Moro warrior would have kept his kris in better polish and only lightly etched. However, long-time storage has taken its toll with some of the old blades (neglected by US veterans as well as by less blade-savy Filipinos) - so it's quite common to find genuine antique kris with various forms of corrosion; if gently cleaned rather than polished, the surface will look grainy.

Regards,
Kai

baganing_balyan · 3rd July 2008, 09:57 AM

I am interested to know how the mindanao muslims long ago came up with Ferric Chloride. I did not know there was chemistry already in the Philippines then. I wish we were that scientifically advanced, Americans would not have slaughtered so many Moros in the name of manifest destiny.

Spunjer · 3rd July 2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by baganing_balyan

I am interested to know how the mindanao muslims long ago came up with Ferric Chloride. I did not know there was chemistry already in the Philippines then. I wish we were that scientifically advanced, Americans would not have slaughtered so many Moros in the name of manifest destiny.

radio shack?

hoy, he meant it was etch recently with ferric chloride.

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Old krises do not have varnished ratan strips if they were used as decorative bands. The handle head was also varnished.

here's a kris brought back in 1901

...and panabas in that same collection

see? it's varnished

Bill M · 3rd July 2008, 01:35 PM

Ron,

Meant to say earlier that I am also glad to see you back! You have a lot to contribute.

Rick · 3rd July 2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Spunjer

radio shack?

ROTFLMAO !!

Great to see you're back Ron ..

Rick

3rd July 2008, 07:58 AM	#1
baganing_balyan Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 89	also, study the surface of the blade. If it's grainier, then it's not older. Sharpening a snaky kris with no distinct design or pamor on both sides also makes the area near the center of the blade smooth. the blade just looks new to me. don't tell me you want me to elaborate more on the handle which is the most problematic one.

3rd July 2008, 09:57 AM	#3
baganing_balyan Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 89	I am interested to know how the mindanao muslims long ago came up with Ferric Chloride. I did not know there was chemistry already in the Philippines then. I wish we were that scientifically advanced, Americans would not have slaughtered so many Moros in the name of manifest destiny.

3rd July 2008, 01:35 PM	#5
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Ron, Meant to say earlier that I am also glad to see you back! You have a lot to contribute.