Nice Persian TABAR for comment

ward · 22nd June 2008, 05:03 PM

It does not have a Sudanese feel the kotkagari does look indian to me

Atlantia · 22nd June 2008, 06:15 PM

I think its most likely second half 19thC. There are a lot of modern good items around but this one looks ok to me. I'd worry about a lack of deeper oxidisation in the recesses between the blades and shaft loop, but Valjhun has seen it pre-clean, so would have suspicions if it had looked newly aged or dirtied up.
I think if it was 'new' it would have an ornate handle to go with it. If it was recent it would be lighter or unsharpened.
I'd have a punt at it at the right price.
I think its either old enough or nice enough to merit a place in my collection.

I like the plain wooden shaft.

Heres a similar shaped head in the V&A

jthommo · 22nd June 2008, 11:31 PM

I posted a single sided axe head in april the design on the blade is the same I think

Thommo(amateur)

Atlantia · 23rd June 2008, 12:37 AM

I really like the Bhuj and flanged mace in that diagram as well.

Jim McDougall · 23rd June 2008, 01:31 AM

nice bhiuj

Valjhun · 23rd June 2008, 04:39 AM

Thanks jthommo! Yes, identical kofgatri!

Well, I've aquired that from an old attic here nerby, hmmm, is it really possible that the thing is turkish? I can't believe that, but...

22nd June 2008, 11:31 PM	#3
jthommo Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 9	axe head I posted a single sided axe head in april the design on the blade is the same I think Thommo(amateur)

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ward Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 637	It does not have a Sudanese feel the kotkagari does look indian to me

22nd June 2008, 06:15 PM	#2
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	I think its most likely second half 19thC. There are a lot of modern good items around but this one looks ok to me. I'd worry about a lack of deeper oxidisation in the recesses between the blades and shaft loop, but Valjhun has seen it pre-clean, so would have suspicions if it had looked newly aged or dirtied up. I think if it was 'new' it would have an ornate handle to go with it. If it was recent it would be lighter or unsharpened. I'd have a punt at it at the right price. I think its either old enough or nice enough to merit a place in my collection. I like the plain wooden shaft. Heres a similar shaped head in the V&A

23rd June 2008, 12:37 AM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	I really like the Bhuj and flanged mace in that diagram as well.

23rd June 2008, 01:31 AM	#5
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,670	nice bhiuj

23rd June 2008, 04:39 AM	#6
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Thanks jthommo! Yes, identical kofgatri! Well, I've aquired that from an old attic here nerby, hmmm, is it really possible that the thing is turkish? I can't believe that, but...