What and when?

Rick · 13th June 2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by David

I think we might be doing the "Gilbo" a injustice here. He is not Dominic as some suspect, his IP address is indeed from California, but there is certainly a mystery here as to why Dominic posted the same sword on Sword Forum.Carl, do you know Dominic?
As far as i can tell Carl you are more into heavy metal than ornamental iron, but then after listening to your music it is probably good that you have a day job.

Do yourself a favor. If you want to sell this read the rules first. You need to post it in our swap forum. We don't sell ot trade in this part of the forum. Sell it to the highest bidder if you will. You will not get an appraisal here i am afraid. But yes, it is worth "something" and if you take offers you will probably get a fair price for it.

Sorry to hear that your town's on fire.

I apologize for any confusion; but such serendipity !
Perhaps Dominic was offered this piece by our Californian friend .

I look forward to this being resolved .

Rick

Mark · 16th June 2008, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

I apologize for any confusion; but such serendipity !
Perhaps Dominic was offered this piece by our Californian friend .

I look forward to this being resolved .

Rick

That is precisely the case.

You guys have sharp eyes, but do remember that there is often a perfectly reasonable explanation for odd circumstances.

Returning you now to your regularly-scheduled discussion.

Jeff D · 16th June 2008, 03:54 PM

Hi Carl,

Any way to get a better picture of this cartouche?

Dom · 16th June 2008, 05:20 PM

translation of the cartouche mention

LA GHALEB ELLA ALLAH

only God is Winner

à +

Dom

gilbo · 16th June 2008, 05:51 PM

Here is a better shot of that for you. Whats it say? One of you guys wanted a better pic of the tip. Here you go.....I swear that looks like blood rust....Dont it?
Thanks for looking. I think im going to turn into a collector....Really interesting...

Rick · 16th June 2008, 07:54 PM

Now it would be nice to know whether the blade is wootz, pattern welded or plain steel .

gilbo · 16th June 2008, 09:21 PM

It still has one heck of an edge. Do I sand it? Dip it in acid? to find out if its what you say "wootz"? Ill do it right now!!!! (joke) Im not going to touch this thing. Leave it up to the pro's.....

Mark · 17th June 2008, 06:58 PM

The way to bring out the pattern in steel is to polish (NOT burnish!), then lightly etch the blade. I have only done an etch twice, with only so-so results, so others I am sure can give you better advice than I, including solutions, times, etch.

The polish should be done by a pro, though. It is a somewhat misleading term, because what actually is done is gradual and even removal of the surface with a series of stones of increasing fineness (wet/dry sandpaper can also be used). The trick is to open the grain of the steel and get an even surface. Buffing or burnishing with a polishing wheel (as a jeweler or silversmith would do, for example) has just the opposite effect - the surface material gets rubbed around (like icing a cake) and fills in the grain. I'll PM you with the contact info of an excellent polisher & restorer, in case you want to do something with the blade.

16th June 2008, 03:54 PM	#3
Jeff D Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 473	Hi Carl, Any way to get a better picture of this cartouche? Attached Images

16th June 2008, 05:20 PM	#4
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	translation of the cartouche mention LA GHALEB ELLA ALLAH only God is Winner à + Dom Attached Images

16th June 2008, 05:51 PM	#5
gilbo Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7	Few more pics Here is a better shot of that for you. Whats it say? One of you guys wanted a better pic of the tip. Here you go.....I swear that looks like blood rust....Dont it? Thanks for looking. I think im going to turn into a collector....Really interesting... Attached Images

16th June 2008, 09:21 PM	#7
gilbo Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 7	Acid? It still has one heck of an edge. Do I sand it? Dip it in acid? to find out if its what you say "wootz"? Ill do it right now!!!! (joke) Im not going to touch this thing. Leave it up to the pro's.....

16th June 2008, 07:54 PM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,365	Now it would be nice to know whether the blade is wootz, pattern welded or plain steel .

17th June 2008, 06:58 PM	#8
Mark Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 987	The way to bring out the pattern in steel is to polish (NOT burnish!), then lightly etch the blade. I have only done an etch twice, with only so-so results, so others I am sure can give you better advice than I, including solutions, times, etch. The polish should be done by a pro, though. It is a somewhat misleading term, because what actually is done is gradual and even removal of the surface with a series of stones of increasing fineness (wet/dry sandpaper can also be used). The trick is to open the grain of the steel and get an even surface. Buffing or burnishing with a polishing wheel (as a jeweler or silversmith would do, for example) has just the opposite effect - the surface material gets rubbed around (like icing a cake) and fills in the grain. I'll PM you with the contact info of an excellent polisher & restorer, in case you want to do something with the blade.