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Rick · 11th June 2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by matahati

Thank you for the warm welcome Rick. I love the keris you're showing. The hilt looks Madurese or north coast E. Java, am I wrong? Any chance to see a close up of the pamor? Regarding Pamor Miring, it seems you're right according to what I could make out from the Ensiklopedi: it's the other main type of Pamor, along with P Mlulah. I must say, I cannot understand how it is possible to make any kind of strong blade that way, not to mention the skill required for such control of the pattern. Could there be a technical trick?

A skilled smith can weld this on a core .

A. G. Maisey · 12th June 2008, 01:18 AM

Jim Hrisoulas' book:- "The Pattern Welded Blade" will provide a good understanding of the techniques used to produce various patterns in welded material.

Its not about keris, but was written as a handbook for knifemakers wanting to produce patterns in damascus, however, the techniques explained in it parrallel to a significant degree what I know of the techniques used in Jawa.

David · 12th June 2008, 04:36 AM

Ah Rick, you have such pretty toys...

Rick · 12th June 2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Ah Rick, you have such pretty toys...

Compared to who's ?

"The fulfillment of a keris is also the function to fill our soul with."
Empu Kumis

David · 12th June 2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Compared to who's ?

Why, compared to YOU, of course...

matahati · 12th June 2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Jim Hrisoulas' book:- "The Pattern Welded Blade" will provide a good understanding of the techniques used to produce various patterns in welded material.

Its not about keris, but was written as a handbook for knifemakers wanting to produce patterns in damascus, however, the techniques explained in it parrallel to a significant degree what I know of the techniques used in Jawa.

Thanks for the info, sounds like a must get book.
I pondered for some time on the explanation you gave of the way to produce a pattern similar to the picture I posted through a twisting. I could not make it out. A well illustrated book will probably help.

matahati · 12th June 2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

A skilled smith can weld this on a core .

Ouh Lala! Très joli. It's absolutely gorgeous! But what do you mean "to weld on a core"?

Rick · 13th June 2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by matahati

Ouh Lala! Très joli. It's absolutely gorgeous! But what do you mean "to weld on a core"?

Whereas your keris is made from soild pamor; the example I have shown has a plain core with the pamor applied to each side .

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12th June 2008, 01:18 AM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,048	Jim Hrisoulas' book:- "The Pattern Welded Blade" will provide a good understanding of the techniques used to produce various patterns in welded material. Its not about keris, but was written as a handbook for knifemakers wanting to produce patterns in damascus, however, the techniques explained in it parrallel to a significant degree what I know of the techniques used in Jawa.