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Old 9th June 2008, 01:53 AM   #1
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This looks like a mounted tombak of 3 luk .
I agree with Henk. Rick made the right hit on Sjor's "keris-like object". A mounted tombak, but with a little bit modification that the tombak looks like asymmetrical. (Though not every tombak is always symmetrical -- e.g. cis). The scabbard is like madurese "seken" (mounted tombak, with handy scabbard).

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Please, no worries .
I looked at the base and saw a metuk-like feature there .

Probably made as a talisman , no ?
Agree too, based on the "rapal-like" arabic-etching on the blade. (But apologize me, I can not read those arabic writings..)
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Old 9th June 2008, 02:17 AM   #2
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Most tombak do have a metuk, but not all things with a metuk are tombak.

The pics are of an archaic knife, possibly an early wedung.

I have seen numerous examples of the type of blade under discussion. They seem to be particulary prevalent in East Jawa and the region to the west of Surabaya along the north coast. They are definitely talismans, and in most instances appear to have been produced from older pieces of wesi aji.
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Old 9th June 2008, 06:30 AM   #3
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... I can not read those arabic writings...
Dear Ganjawulung, Mr. E.Kon at the Leiden University made a translation for me:
A little part part was a problem because he couldn't read it but the main text is from the quoran ; Sura - 12 Joseph ( Yousuf): ..."O my father, I saw eleven planets, and the sun, and the moon; I saw them prostrating before me."

Mr. Maisey: it did originate from Surabaya

So it's a mounted tombak of 3 luk from Surabaya or the region to the west of Surabaya. Its purpose was/is a Jimat or talisman and it's highly possible that it's made from an older piece of wesi aji.

Gentlemen, (again) thank you very much for your help
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