Panabas, aka Bruticus Maximus...

zamboanga · 27th March 2005, 08:57 AM

as promised here are the pics from Fort del Pilar museum.

zamboanga · 27th March 2005, 09:07 AM

sorry for the poor resolution had to take pictures on the sly ("bawal po sir") and my cam has outdated technology.

the sangkil spears are the ones near the bottom. the three pointed spears are known as sapang as also used among tausugs. the yakan's sangkil comes in two variants: one with only one side of the head with a hook (what's the term?) and another type comes with both sides of the head with hooks and is known as "sulayang."

Bill · 27th March 2005, 12:35 PM

Zamboanga, Great info, Thanks. I haven't seen before a specific group credited as the shipbuilders. From what I have seen only 3 early wrecks have been researched. Wonder if the Samal are the "shipbuilders" of the whole area, or other groups did also. Appears "lash-lugging" technique is what makes it a PI ship.

tom hyle · 27th March 2005, 01:20 PM

Your worst pictures that you complain about are better than ones I'm happy with if I took 'em

hee hee thanks; very interesting.

dennee · 27th March 2005, 05:09 PM

The attached photo is of a little panabas, surely 20th-century, that I would characterize as agricultural. Total length is 22 inches. Blade length 10-1/4".

dennee · 27th March 2005, 05:12 PM

And a panabas-like implement from another culture, which I am convinced is a weapon. It was sold as being from the Trobriand Islands, and certainly the incised and lime-filled wood handle suggests as much. Total length of 30 inches, the blade is about 15-1/4 inches.

Ian · 27th March 2005, 06:30 PM

Dennee:

Yours has the appearance of a panabas, including the lime-filled okir decoration -- probably 20th C. Don't think you need to look for an origin outside the Moro, but it could be from N. Borneo. Trobriand Islands seems a stretch.

27th March 2005, 08:57 AM	#1
zamboanga Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: zamboanga city, philippines Posts: 132	SAMAL SHIPBUILDING TOOLS as promised here are the pics from Fort del Pilar museum. Attached Images

27th March 2005, 01:20 PM	#4
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	you guys....... Your worst pictures that you complain about are better than ones I'm happy with if I took 'em hee hee thanks; very interesting.

27th March 2005, 05:09 PM	#5
dennee Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: College Park, MD Posts: 186	The attached photo is of a little panabas, surely 20th-century, that I would characterize as agricultural. Total length is 22 inches. Blade length 10-1/4". Attached Images

27th March 2005, 05:12 PM	#6
dennee Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: College Park, MD Posts: 186	And a panabas-like implement from another culture, which I am convinced is a weapon. It was sold as being from the Trobriand Islands, and certainly the incised and lime-filled wood handle suggests as much. Total length of 30 inches, the blade is about 15-1/4 inches. Attached Images Last edited by dennee; 27th March 2005 at 05:47 PM.

27th March 2005, 09:07 AM	#2
zamboanga Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: zamboanga city, philippines Posts: 132	sorry for the poor resolution had to take pictures on the sly ("bawal po sir") and my cam has outdated technology. the sangkil spears are the ones near the bottom. the three pointed spears are known as sapang as also used among tausugs. the yakan's sangkil comes in two variants: one with only one side of the head with a hook (what's the term?) and another type comes with both sides of the head with hooks and is known as "sulayang."

27th March 2005, 12:35 PM	#3
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	Zamboanga, Great info, Thanks. I haven't seen before a specific group credited as the shipbuilders. From what I have seen only 3 early wrecks have been researched. Wonder if the Samal are the "shipbuilders" of the whole area, or other groups did also. Appears "lash-lugging" technique is what makes it a PI ship.

27th March 2005, 06:30 PM	#7
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,399	Dennee: Yours has the appearance of a panabas, including the lime-filled okir decoration -- probably 20th C. Don't think you need to look for an origin outside the Moro, but it could be from N. Borneo. Trobriand Islands seems a stretch.